update on $30 nitrous setup, RESULTS!!

propane can be used on gas engines but you need a higher compression piston to take advantage of it. Alot of rock crawlin trucks use propane so their trucks can opperate at extreme angles without stalling.

2003 Grizzly 660 28" mudzillas. Camoclad fenders intake and exhaust tranny snorkle. Ox-lite front bumper w/ ramsey 2500 Custom rear bumper Yamaha R-6 exhaust, dynojet kit
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just incase someone misunderstood my question i want to know if they think the nitrus will work on a little alcohol engine like a top fuel dragser just a briggs and stratton size. get your information right yes propain is a power adder for a dieseal motor and a gas engine can be converted by a faraly simple intake modifactions. I was was not asking about that i was asking about nitrous on a ALCOHOL engine.  sorry for miss spells been drinking

heres a kit i found on ebay for 39.99
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ATV-Quad-Sneaky-Pete-Mini-Nitrous-Kit-w-5-NOS-Refills_W0QQitemZ220107149299QQihZ012QQcategoryZ43979QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

i don't see why it won't work on alcohol engines all nitrous does is add more oxygen so you can add more fuel  then you get more hp

Alcohol is ideal to run with notrous, it keeps your motor alot cooler, and on two strokes it builds more power and is easier to tune, its not as great as everyone says on 4 strokes........it doesnt add that much power and is hard to tune
 
the worst thing about it is you use so much compared to gas or race gas

06 YFZ 450 SOLD
05 KODIAK 450 SOLD
05 POLARIS 700 PARTED OUT

done for now.

i might try this setup.[:D]can i run a hose directly to to the snorkel with out changing jets but running high octane???

08 BIG BEAR



27-12,27-9.5 INCH LAWS
HLP SPACERS
WARN WINCH
HIGHLIFTER 2 INCH LIFT KIT
SNORKEL

why do u put no2 on a bike

[:)]when it gets hard for the tires to keep spinning u hit the button aND GET out of the mud hole.

08 BIG BEAR



27-12,27-9.5 INCH LAWS
HLP SPACERS
WARN WINCH
HIGHLIFTER 2 INCH LIFT KIT
SNORKEL

thanx man im gonna tri that on my 300ex about how muck more power do you get ?
 

2004 honda rancher A/T
26in mud lites


For Sale
98 honda 300 ex
k&n air
FMF pipe
bear claw tires
alloy armor and plates
all balls bearings
ITP wheels
costom lights and racks

ok i have used nitrous for a while now and its been on every vehicle i have owned. for a proper nitrous system you need solenoids to open and close the lines to allow nitrous to flow through. the way you are doing this can and in time will burn a hole in the piston. you need more fuel, period. a lean spike for 2 seconds can and will harm the engine. co2 is carbon dioxide, n20 is nitrous oxide, there is a difference. propane is ran in diesels not gas engines. the air needle is not an efficient jet for a nitrous system and using small bottles isnt the right way to do it. nitrous runs efficiently off of bottle pressure, if the bottle is cold you will have low pressure, hot and you will have high pressure. you want to run any nitrous system with the bottle pressure at 950-1050 psi for maximum performance. this way that is listed does and will work, but be warned you can harm your engine by doing so. [;)]

07 Honda Foreman
27" Outlaws on ss112's, custom snorkle, k&n, hmf utility, dyno jet, 2" hl lift and stick stoppers

so all you do is run the line into the air box or my snorkle

06 350 rancher
hl lift kit
hl lift springs
26in laws[
maxxis 4x4 wheels
snorkel
Macsim leak shield
HMF Utility
dyno jet kit
k&n filter
Outerwears prefilter
k&n oil filter
stickers!!!!!


I DON'T RIDE TRAILS........ I MAKE UM!!

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ok i have used nitrous for a while now and its been on every vehicle i have owned. for a proper nitrous system you need solenoids to open and close the lines to allow nitrous to flow through. the way you are doing this can and in time will burn a hole in the piston. you need more fuel, period. a lean spike for 2 seconds can and will harm the engine. co2 is carbon dioxide, n20 is nitrous oxide, there is a difference. propane is ran in diesels not gas engines. the air needle is not an efficient jet for a nitrous system and using small bottles isnt the right way to do it. nitrous runs efficiently off of bottle pressure, if the bottle is cold you will have low pressure, hot and you will have high pressure. you want to run any nitrous system with the bottle pressure at 950-1050 psi for maximum performance. this way that is listed does and will work, but be warned you can harm your engine by doing so. [;)]

I agree with everything you said except for the propane only running in diesel engines.  Propane is run in gas engines also and is becoming more popular everyday.

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ok i just order the one off ebay and it should be in by the end of next week. so i will let yall no what it soes if som1 doesn't already.

06 350 rancher
hl lift kit
hl lift springs
26in laws[
maxxis 4x4 wheels
snorkel
Macsim leak shield
HMF Utility
dyno jet kit
k&n filter
Outerwears prefilter
k&n oil filter
stickers!!!!!


I DON'T RIDE TRAILS........ I MAKE UM!!

i know this is a little late but i am just getting into this thread and i happen to know a thing or two bout nitrous.....mainly because i run it own my mach
 
i have a different tune and for when i spray nitrous...on that tune i have the timming retarded and i have to run a colder plug and have more fuel going into the motor
 
i run a dry shot on my car and it is safer to prvent blowin the intake off and all the other stories you hear....dry shot safer than wet
 
so long story short more is not better retard timming more fuel and lower compression...and dont hold it out
 
intersting thread none the less

what are all the white nossles comeing from ur snorkle

05 arctic cat 500m 5500.00
bear claw rubbers $300.00
fully snorkled $30.00
fog lights $30.00
rad relocated $70.00
custom 12 inch lift $1800.00
paint $500.00

airboxes removed and filter on top of snorkle $50.00
custom 12 inch lift $1800.00 being able to skool any other atv out there priceless!!!!

ORIGINAL: oxmach

i know this is a little late but i am just getting into this thread and i happen to know a thing or two bout nitrous.....mainly because i run it own my mach

1) i have a different tune and for when i spray nitrous...on that tune i have the timming retarded and i have to run a colder plug and have more fuel going into the motor

2) i run a dry shot on my car and it is safer to prvent blowin the intake off and all the other stories you hear....dry shot safer than wet

so long story short more is not better retard timming more fuel and lower compression...and dont hold it out

intersting thread none the less

with statement 1) i agree that you need to do that on a gas burner of what ever size.  especialy with EFI vehicls the timing and fuel will be deliverd with read outs from the o2 censer!

and 2) this is true if you have a EFI or run your carb fat (rich) to start with.

i have "helped" tune n2o cars on the dyno, 2 degree's timing retard for every 50HP shot..........i have yet to see a 50 shot on an atv.  i'm ttrying to locate it, but there was a kit out there that had a "tube" type thing included in the kit to either propell the n20 threw the carb eliminating the need for a auxilary fuel pump.  i think i saw it on a sand drag web site or something.

so far i have a gas/liquid electric valve (same as n2o solenoid), and a 4-7psi fuel pump, as much -2 or -4 nylon/steel braided line w/ fittings that i'll need.  i'm slowly piecing together the components..........i don't see paying $600 for a 10-15 shot for an ATV.  the parts can be pieced together for much less (ie what i'm doing now).  if a 150-250 shot for a car only costs about 3-500, why should an ATV kit (for single or twin cylinder) cost upwords of $700.........

so far:
4-electric on/off valves (2 for ATV 2 for mud truck) $15
4-7 psi inline fuel pump $7 @ napa
-braided line and fittings are JIC and nylon/steel woven over high press hose $25

some of the other parts you can find off "scam"bay out of broken n20 sets........thats where i'm heading, hahaha

i have got this setup and it wants to lift the front tires on my 05 500m i have 2 let off so i dont flip lol works good i recomend it

05 arctic cat 500m 5500.00
bear claw rubbers $300.00
fully snorkled $30.00
fog lights $30.00
rad relocated $70.00
custom 12 inch lift $1800.00
paint $500.00

airboxes removed and filter on top of snorkle $50.00
custom 12 inch lift $1800.00 being able to skool any other atv out there priceless!!!!

i decide to run this cheap setup on my bayou and it worked great. i was down playin in the river and my rpms started to drop but with just a quick push of the button they came right back! i definately recommend this setup for any atv!

2006 Kawasaki Bayou 250 
Led's & Strobes
Winch with Custom Mount
Custom Seat Cover

ORIGINAL: brisnika

what are all the white nossles comeing from ur snorkle

Those are a vent that was connected to my air box.  I found that if it got clogged then my quad would immediately die.  Since I mostly ride in mud I decided to give that one vent several routes to air so it would not get clogged.

2005 Suzuki Ozark, modded SOLD

1991 Honda Fourtrax 300 4X4  - mine
Dirt Cheap Fourtrax Build 

2010 Chinese 110cc  - one of my son's
1983 Suzuki LT125  - my other son's
198X Suzuki LT185  - The wife's

Interesting thread.
 
I've run nitrous, I've even run it on a quad.  Great stuff.
 
I can answer questions if you have any.  Let me first add my "advice".
 
Nitrous is dangerous in the same way a sport car is dangerous.  It's so easy to push it a little further, and a little further, and a little further.  It's safe in moderation.  For this cheap kit, it looks perfectly fine.  I can only see a few minor issues. 
 
Some of the "experts" are saying that you'll burn your piston, you need to add fuel, ect ect.   Naw, not true, as long as you keep the levels low, and keep the time on the button to a minimum.  Yes, it's lean, but lean only creates extra heat.  If you keep the time on the button to a minimum, the heat won't build up enough to cause harm.
 
A key point is KEEPING LEVELS LOW!!!  A couple posts above, one person says the power is enough to lift the front tires up.  That's NOT safe, too much power for this style of kit.  That kind of power is fine it was a proper wet kit injecting both nitrous and fuel, but not for a little kit like this that only injects nitrous.
 
For a simple 2-3hp, under 2 seconds at a time, and no detonation, you're fine.

would a can of starter fluid do the same think if u straped the can to the bike and drilled a hole in the intake sumwheres

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2006 manual500
maxxis rubicons 25x9.50x12 in rear with tubes in em
stock fronts with tubes in them
front springs 4th notch rear springs 3rd notch
deluxe front bumper
deluxe rear bumper
8 inch rack extension
1 broken axle

ORIGINAL: catman4x4m

would a can of starter fluid do the same think if u straped the can to the bike and drilled a hole in the intake sumwheres

 
I don't think so, because even starter fluid needs AIR to burn.  Air is our limiting factor, not fuel.  If it was simply a matter of more fuel (any type), we would just use larger jets in our carburetors to achieve that.

I've had this setup on my 300 for a while now.  It's not "throw you back in the seat" power, but does work good for the occational tap of the button when you start to bog in thick mud.  The RPMs will jump right back up where you want them.  I only tap mine, never hold the button down.
 
Ben

'98 Honda 300 4x4
K&N _ DynoJet
Snorkel _ FO-4
NOS _ Clutch Kit
HL 2" Lift _ Warn 424
HL Spool Locker
512 Shocks
HL Spring on rear
Venom 3K winch
27" MudZillas

'88 Honda 300 2x4 Wife's
1" lift _ ITP Steel Wheels
25x12.5" Super Swamper TSL's

Gettin' Muddy!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a47/jbw1776/gr19.jpg

Has anyone tried this small set-up on an EFI big bore yet?

2006 AC 500m
Gorilla 6" Lift
Gorilla Axles
1" Spacers
4.0's
650H1 Pull Rope Delete
650H1 Cam
EPI
Slide Mod / Spring Cut
DynoJet
UNI
Dual 2" Snorkles
Rad Racked
ODI Grips
Custom Red SS Brake Lines
4 Wheel Disc Brakes
HMF
AMR Monster Coil
Custom Paint

would this work if i tap it into the tube between the air filter and the carb??

09' Popo 850 XP stealth black 
3in. catvos raked lift
31in laws on 14in ss212's soon to be 312's
front bumper with warn winch
gorillas all around


91' Honda Fourtrax 300 4x4 (project bike) 2in. highlifter lift
snorkeled
459 cam
bbk
clutch kit
big red DID timing chain
FO-14 muffler
k&n air filter
28-12-12's rear and 28-10-12's front Silverbacks
12in. black and chrome itp ss 112's

2003 GMC 2500HD 4X4
double 5% tint all around
16in. american racing rims
285-75-16 M/T's
H.I.D.'s in headlights and foglights
New In-Dash Pioneer AVIC-X920BT

ORIGINAL: hondamudin

would this work if i tap it into the tube between the air filter and the carb??

Yes, that would work just fine.

2005 Suzuki Ozark, modded SOLD

1991 Honda Fourtrax 300 4X4  - mine
Dirt Cheap Fourtrax Build 

2010 Chinese 110cc  - one of my son's
1983 Suzuki LT125  - my other son's
198X Suzuki LT185  - The wife's

It's a good idea but be carefull.  Spraying nitrous alone will add power because it causes a lean condition.  If you spray a 20 shot worth of nitrous in a motor but no extra fuel it will feel like a 2 shot but be running very very lean. 

03 700 sportsman SOLD
6 in monkey lift
29.5 laws
Progressive spring kit
relocated radiator
snorkeled
1.5 wheel spacers
fender extenders


08 800 sportsman (stealth)For Sale 5900$ 
Polaris rear bumper
3.5 degree timing key
EPI front and rear springs
Innovate wideband A/F gauge
HSP single pipe
Snorkeled


05 Honda Foreman 500
stock with a snorkel

I would like to know how it works on an EFI quad.

2007 Honda Rancher 4x4 ES + junk

http://i38.tinypic.com/2920bnq.jpg

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this is amazing

SHUT UP AND RIDE
 D.S.M.S.

this is pretty sweet. i got the same wheeler as you, but im afraid id screw somethin up wheni get into that lol. get some vids up of your wheeler with the nitrous shots going!