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2010/05/28 17:26:05 (permalink)

rancher 420 gear reduction ???

im lookin at buyin a gear reduction and 30 backs for my rancher 420. does anyone know how fast a rancher will go with the gear reduction? i didnt know if it would go 30 mph like the rincon or wat?
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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/05/28 17:29:16 (permalink)
    40-45 at the rev limiter on 29.5s

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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/05/28 17:30:37 (permalink)
    yep what he said. but it will get there really quick lol.

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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/05/28 17:40:49 (permalink)
    yes it will unless its a auto then the shifter can shift fast enough

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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/07/09 18:37:07 (permalink)
    alright guys i need some help. times are hard and money is tight these days, or at least for me. i have an 09 rancher s. it has a gr, clutch kit, k&n(ru3710 fits perfect), pclll with a costum map and dual snorkels with an hmf. i have a set of 31 wides im itching to put on. i ride strictly lake bottoms with nothing but peanut butter mud. i borrewed some 29.5s and the bike wont pull them. when i say that i mean if i bury it to the racks and leave it over night and come back the next day and the mud dries it cant turn the tires over. i had a big bear on 32s that would without thinkin twice. to make a long story short i need to know what gears are used to do a primary reduction. my friend works at a machine shop and said he would do the work on his off day for free but i dont know what gears i need. ive seen the heard 300 ex and the 300 fourtrax. i really want to get them 31s under that bike.
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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/07/09 19:10:20 (permalink)
    sounds like you ride in to much thick mud to try and 31 wides on a 420 or any bike for that matter lol jmo

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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/07/10 14:00:41 (permalink)
    well i had a 2008 big bear 400 that could pull 32s no problem. it had a k&n true dual 2in snorkels clutch kit wiseco 12.5.1 high compression piston hot cam crank and cam did chain jet kit and hmf. but i get stolen this past feb. the 420 is the wifes that i have taken over now. from what i hear doin a double gear reduction is better than all that stuff i had done on bb. honestly im not a honda fan and this lack of power is makin it worse. the only reason i bought the 420 was cause the wife wanted a white 4whlr, but its mine now so i want to squeeze everybit of torque out of it. spped is not an issue. as long as i can do 30mph i'll be happy cause the winner isnt the first to the mud hole it is the first across the mudehole so any help will be greatly appreciated
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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/07/10 14:18:06 (permalink)
    you dont need any 300 parts.  Xtremerancher02 makes a lower GR for your bike I think, Id suggest that.
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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/07/10 15:39:11 (permalink)
    my Irs bike hits the rev limiter in 5th gear at 42mph on stock tires with xtremes 32% reduction.

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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/07/10 21:56:24 (permalink)
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    alright guys i need some help. times are hard and money is tight these days, or at least for me. i have an 09 rancher s. it has a gr, clutch kit, k&n(ru3710 fits perfect), pclll with a costum map and dual snorkels with an hmf. i have a set of 31 wides im itching to put on. i ride strictly lake bottoms with nothing but peanut butter mud. i borrewed some 29.5s and the bike wont pull them. when i say that i mean if i bury it to the racks and leave it over night and come back the next day and the mud dries it cant turn the tires over. i had a big bear on 32s that would without thinkin twice. to make a long story short i need to know what gears are used to do a primary reduction. my friend works at a machine shop and said he would do the work on his off day for free but i dont know what gears i need. ive seen the heard 300 ex and the 300 fourtrax. i really want to get them 31s under that bike.


    sounds like you ride a lot of the stuff i that ride..if the bike is a sra xtreme makes a 50% dbl GR. i plan on ordering this very soon..that should spin any tire in any type of mud you want

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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/07/11 19:32:42 (permalink)
    i know extreme makes one and i have sent him a pm. but thats why in my first post i said money is tight. if i could make one my self for half $ thats what i want to do plus i could also say i made something for my bike.
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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/07/11 22:24:31 (permalink)
    well if you think about it the gr is 14 percent, so whatever your top speed is now it will be 14 percent slower than now

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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/07/12 03:49:08 (permalink)
    with 27 wide apes it will do 52mph with a 15.5% gr on flat pavement. before i put the gear reduction in it would run 72mph with the mods and stock tires. all i care about is torque though 35 to 40 mph top speed is fine with me.
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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/07/12 07:14:58 (permalink)
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    with 27 wide apes it will do 52mph with a 15.5% gr on flat pavement. before i put the gear reduction in it would run 72mph with the mods and stock tires. all i care about is torque though 35 to 40 mph top speed is fine with me.

     Major BS called on that one. With the gearing in the bike stock there is no way possible to get a 420 that fast unless you were in neutral getting pushed by a Brute or something, or in the back of your truck going down the highway. On stock 24" tires you will be bouncing off the rev limiter in 5th gear at about 56-58mph TOPS.

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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/07/12 07:38:16 (permalink)
    thats no bs. both of those speeds were riding next to my friend in his 08 stock wrangler on a highway. the 420s are fairly quick bikes for there size. now im not on here to one up anybody. if i post something it is what it is. im on here for info. and the info i need is what gears do i need for a primary gear reduction on a 420
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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/07/12 08:18:02 (permalink)
    Then quite simply his speedometer is 15-20mph off. I don't mean any harm man, but your bike isn't the only 420 on the planet that can defy the laws of physics. 72mph is not possible with the gearing in the bike, if you believe it is then I've got some Oceanfront property in Kansas that I'd love to sell you.

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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/07/12 10:19:21 (permalink)
    as long as bp doesnt have a well by it i might be interested
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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/07/12 11:18:26 (permalink)
    .....can you even put a GR in a foot **** 420 rancher??? if so ....what do i need to spin what i got in my sig  VVV  in some thick mud..???

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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/07/12 11:31:59 (permalink)
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    .....can you even put a GR in a foot **** 420 rancher??? if so ....what do i need to spin what i got in my sig  VVV  in some thick mud..???

    Absolutely, all of the reductions that work for the ES's will work in the foot shift bikes also. If you put Xtremerancher02's secondary side reduction in your bike you won't even be able to tell those Silverbacks are there. I did a writeup on the install of that reduction a few months back, its in the Honda FAQ sticky if you wanna check it out to see what the install process is like.

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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/07/12 12:36:25 (permalink)
    his speedo isnt off. i have to friends one with a 650 rincon and the other with an 08 420 both have k&n and hmf. out the hole the rincon wins every time but at about a 30mph take off they stay neck and neck. so i know i dont have the only one that defies physics. btw both are stock tires 420 has 24 and the rinny has 25s
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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/07/12 12:51:51 (permalink)
    hondaguy wasn't saying the 420's wouldn't keep up, he was saying bs to the post above when the guy said it would go 72 mph, my 420 would top out stock at about 58 or so stock, unless there is different gearing ill find it hard to believe.

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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/07/12 12:55:58 (permalink)
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    .....can you even put a GR in a foot **** 420 rancher??? if so ....what do i need to spin what i got in my sig  VVV  in some thick mud..???

    Absolutely, all of the reductions that work for the ES's will work in the foot shift bikes also. If you put Xtremerancher02's secondary side reduction in your bike you won't even be able to tell those Silverbacks are there. I did a writeup on the install of that reduction a few months back, its in the Honda FAQ sticky if you wanna check it out to see what the install process is like.


    ok well that is what i want then....also how much are we talking ??? also i dont know nothing about GR's so  will Xtremerancher02
    please help me out here....

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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/07/12 13:00:58 (permalink)
    http://forum.highlifter.com/tm.aspx?m=4046685&high=gear+reduction+420
     
    Post number 32 talks about it... only a 5 minute search but I can not find the thread with the actual part numbers that was back in the spring..... I have the numbers somewhere but maybe someone remembers and will post them
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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/07/12 15:01:30 (permalink)
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    hondaguy wasn't saying the 420's wouldn't keep up, he was saying bs to the post above when the guy said it would go 72 mph, my 420 would top out stock at about 58 or so stock, unless there is different gearing ill find it hard to believe.


    i am the guy that said it would run 72. a rinny runs about 65 mph and if a 420 is neck and neck with it then i dont see why yall think a my 420 cant run 72mph with an hmf dual snorkels k&n and a pclll with a costum map and 24s. its onlt 7mph faster.
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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/07/12 18:43:48 (permalink)
    alrights i got the parts i needed to do the 14.5 primary gr. they are goin to the machine shop next tues to get fabed. but a bunch of ppl ive been talkin to say the best thing to do is sell or trade those 31 wides. they say the bike just wont hold up. i only paid $500 for the rims (ss108 black 14s) and tires so i can get my money back. the question is what would be the best tire for a sra with a dgr of 30% (not 50%) and the bike will still be somewhat reliable? fyi i have good throttle control when im sober

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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/07/12 18:51:45 (permalink)
    30x9 silverbacks or 29.5 laws will be your most reliable

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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/07/12 20:33:46 (permalink)
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    biglilrancher

    hondaguy wasn't saying the 420's wouldn't keep up, he was saying bs to the post above when the guy said it would go 72 mph, my 420 would top out stock at about 58 or so stock, unless there is different gearing ill find it hard to believe.


    i am the guy that said it would run 72. a rinny runs about 65 mph and if a 420 is neck and neck with it then i dont see why yall think a my 420 cant run 72mph with an hmf dual snorkels k&n and a pclll with a costum map and 24s. its onlt 7mph faster.


    You can do all the power upgrades you want man, BBKs, Stroker crank, camshafts, N2O, Forced induction, etc, etc, etc, if you don't change the gearing you aren't gonna go any faster then 58mph, you're just gonna get to 58mph faster is all. Either one of three things is happening here, 1) You have a magical Rancher that is different then every other 420 on the planet 2) You've somehow eliminated the rev limiter and are pushing your luck by holding that engine at REDICULOUSLY high RPMs for WAY too long or 3) You're trying to fool all of us for whatever reason I don't know, but all of us that also own 420s know exactly what a 420 can and cannot do, and we all know beyond the shadow of a doubt that a 420 cannot go anywhere near 72mph with the stock gearing on stock sized tires.

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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/07/12 21:28:15 (permalink)
    well i believe it is #2 then cause in 4th and 5th you can bottom out the throttle and it will never hit the rev limiter. 1st 2nd and 3rd have rev limiters but not 4th or 5th. if i did do something to cancel them oujt i am on aware of it. but any way im not sayin i have a better,faster, or magical 420. all i said was what it did. when i ride the only time it ever gets out of 4th is when the park rangers come after me cause of no helmets and beer. the only reason i know those speeds is cause i wanted to see how much speed i would lose after the 2ndary gr install. you can believe me or not. the bike wont ever go that fast again but for now i can i repeat CAN do over 50 with the reduction and 27s. i know everyone is entitled to there own opinion but remember yall werent there i have 3 witnesses plus me that were there that day i know how fast it went when yall can only guesstimate. any way this thread is about a gear reduction ppl need to stop strayin from the subject. so back on topic what yall think about lindenboyz2 answer. 32s are out of the question and if i go 30s it will 30x10x12 cause the 14in rims are goin with the laws when i sell/trade em. anyone have any opinions on 28x12.5x12 on all 4 corners?

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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/07/12 23:29:31 (permalink)
    hondakiller85

    well i believe it is #2 then cause in 4th and 5th you can bottom out the throttle and it will never hit the rev limiter. 1st 2nd and 3rd have rev limiters but not 4th or 5th. if i did do something to cancel them oujt i am on aware of it. but any way im not sayin i have a better,faster, or magical 420. all i said was what it did. when i ride the only time it ever gets out of 4th is when the park rangers come after me cause of no helmets and beer. the only reason i know those speeds is cause i wanted to see how much speed i would lose after the 2ndary gr install. you can believe me or not. the bike wont ever go that fast again but for now i can i repeat CAN do over 50 with the reduction and 27s. i know everyone is entitled to there own opinion but remember yall werent there i have 3 witnesses plus me that were there that day i know how fast it went when yall can only guesstimate. any way this thread is about a gear reduction ppl need to stop strayin from the subject. so back on topic what yall think about lindenboyz2 answer. 32s are out of the question and if i go 30s it will 30x10x12 cause the 14in rims are goin with the laws when i sell/trade em. anyone have any opinions on 28x12.5x12 on all 4 corners?

    4th and 5th gear wont hit the rev limiter???? thats gotta be the biggest BS ever

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    Re:rancher 420 gear reduction ??? 2010/07/12 23:48:42 (permalink)
    well white09rancher have you rode my bike. let me go ahead and answer you no you havent. do you know for sure that my bike hits the rev limiter, let me help you with that answer also no you dont. like i said earlier everyone is entitled to an opinion but yours in this case wasnt worth the time you took to type it. after reading alot of forums i see this site is about bashing ppl although some need it. but i know what my bike will do and if you dont ride with me then you obviously dont. all im asking for is helpful info not uneducated comments.

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