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2011/06/11 15:39:28 (permalink)

best clutch kit for brute force

what is the best clutch kit for a 750 bf with 29.5 tires
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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/11 17:57:50 (permalink)
    Don't bother with the kit... get yerself a maroon or almond primary and a red secondary spring pop those babies in and hold on...

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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/11 18:01:23 (permalink)
    But if you are stuck on the kit, get the HL one, I have heard all the stories about being made by epi, but I think it is tweeked a lil for HL, not only that but for the service alone... buy HL.
    Just call the guys they'll put you on the right road.

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    28" Highlifter Outlaws s/w on ITPs
    Full Muzzy system
     K&N Air
    DynaTech CDI
    Jetted
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    Front and Rear Bumpers
     4000lbs Viper Elite
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    Gorilla Axle Radiator Relocation Kit, Snorkels
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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/11 20:49:12 (permalink)
    ok, i have a question. wats the differences between clutches? like uh if im running stock tires, can i set it up to go faster since i dont need any bottom end? wats the colors of the springs mean? i just wanna no more about the clutch kits and springs and stuff
     

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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/11 21:27:30 (permalink)
    They're just organized in colors to show diversity between springs that have different load rates and what not.
     
    You can set your clutch up any way you want with just some different springs and weights for your big tires or when you go back to stockers.

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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/11 21:36:08 (permalink)
    how much does this cost, like the springs
     

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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/11 22:56:38 (permalink)
    r350mudder

    how much does this cost, like the springs


    EPI Springs are around $20.00 each. Do a search for Clutch Springs and it should turn up all the info that you need to know.
    I also agree with loaded in his first post, get you a EPI Maroon or Almond Primary and a Red Secondary. That combo of springs will work well for your set-up.
    post edited by Muddy Fire - 2011/06/11 23:00:38

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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/11 22:59:06 (permalink)
    I have only a red secondary spring in mine.. LOVE IT!! I have had NO belt issues except once when I ran 31x11's on rear offset wheels and one of them was FULL of mud lol.. Belt came apart but never slipped honestly.
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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/11 23:54:45 (permalink)
    it doesnt have to be a clutch kit i can make my own set up
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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/12 00:23:10 (permalink)
    Yeah, you can just buy clutch springs and weights to your own personal preference. Some say just get springs but I think the weights help alot too and I dont like doing just the cheapest easiest way out.

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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/12 13:54:01 (permalink)
    well thats what im wanting to know what springs and weights do i need
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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/12 16:38:30 (permalink)
    i saw on the airdam website that adam is going to start offering kit for cv-tech clutches (brutes, can am..)! i am excited, this would be amazing. an airdam-ed bruteforce. talk about putting the power to the ground.

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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/12 18:58:21 (permalink)
    The only person to call when it comes to Kawasaki clutches is V Force John. Period.

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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/12 19:40:39 (permalink)
    The primary will give you some stall on the bottom end, I run in bog, not mud, and need to make sure I enter a hole with my front tires off the ground so I don't dig in like a spike.  The bit of stall from the almond primary gives me that, in most cases, to just keep that stock feel on take off with the big tires the maroon will be just fine.
    The secondary will drop your top end a little, I never wanted to drop it a whole lot so I never went with the red, but to be honest, I still back off on my thumb long before the brute wants to stop pullin'!!  Really, if you have serious mud tires, you are signing a death warrant wanting to get high speeds.  If you don't have the mud tires, you don't need the clutching.  Don't worry bout losing too much top end, it will be very little.
    As for the colors... they are all coded in colors to signify the weights of each spring.  A heavier spring will keep the sheeves of the clutch together tighter, giving you more pinch on the belt and running slightly slower.
    I think that is it, I'm enjoying a few beverages here at the moment so may have not put it down exactly correct, I'm sure there are lots of members here to fix it for me though   =],   cheers, and just have fun with it.   For $20 a pop, try a couple combos, my shed looks like a rainbow along 1 wall now with all the colors.

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     K&N Air
    DynaTech CDI
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    Wheel Spacers and High Lifter 2" Lift
    Front and Rear Bumpers
     4000lbs Viper Elite
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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/12 23:10:10 (permalink)
    Rednutbowus.. V force John?

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    cooler, cans, rest..
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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/13 00:48:10 (permalink)
    Here is what he does... Kawieriders
     
    He has a great reputation, but he doesnt have a bunch of kids on here talking up his stuff like airdam... so he isnt well known on here.

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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/13 14:35:57 (permalink)
    his seem a little more pricey though. and from reading it i cant tell whether his kit gives me more high end,or low end power?? could you put me in touch with him??

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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/13 17:37:06 (permalink)
    All the info is on his website.
    http://www.vforcejohn.com/
     
     

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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/14 02:22:13 (permalink)
    rednutbowus

    The only person to call when it comes to Kawasaki clutches is V Force John. Period.




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    28" Maxxis Zilla's on ITP SS-106 Wheels, 2" lift 
    K&N Filter w/ Prefilter, Dynatek CDI
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    MIMB 2" Center Snorkels
    Viper Max 3000 lb Winch w/ Amsteal Rope
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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/21 09:46:13 (permalink)
    so I can get a maroon primary to keep the stock stall.. but what secondary can I run to keep my top end?

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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/21 14:54:23 (permalink)
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    so I can get a maroon primary to keep the stock stall.. but what secondary can I run to keep my top end?

    Keeping top end is a funny question to me...
    Once you have thrown on a set of 29.5 serious mudding tires then you have basicly said 'screw you top end!'
    With the setup I have in my sig., I have noticed no loss in top end, but then really, I don't exactly try to max out.   I honestly and truely belive that you need to start with a setup in springs then change em and see the difference for yourself so you know what you want for your own riding style.  This is why the kit was a waste of money for me.   I tried a few different combos of springs, found exactly what I liked, and still came in at about 12 the cost of the kit.  A buddy of mine on the otherhand bought the kit, never liked the setup so went out and still bought another secondary spring.  He still says he should have done what I did.
    I can change a set of springs in about an hour, depending on the beer I consume during the task.  The first time it took me 2 to 2 1/2 hrs being sure of the torques I needed and such.  So it is really not that big of a deal.
    And you feel much better customizing it all yourself too....
    Either way, your call
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    Wheel Spacers and High Lifter 2" Lift
    Front and Rear Bumpers
     4000lbs Viper Elite
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    Gorilla Axle Radiator Relocation Kit, Snorkels
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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/22 20:48:22 (permalink)
    I was asking about top end because I don't run 29.5s all the time.. I'm just wanting an all around good setup that will help with low end and turning 29.5s in mud but also not affect or help power throughout the throttle.. also I don't want to big of a stall but enough for the 29.5s.. so somebody please give me some ideas on setups.. I just got the brute so I don't know much about them yet!

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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/23 15:48:03 (permalink)
    I have my 28" Laws mounted on ITP rims... and a set of 27" Mudlites on my stocker rims.  I change em over all the time depending on where I'm going and who I'm going with, I think my setup is almost perfect for it, but I woulld suggest the maroon pri. as the almond gives just a little too much stall for the lighter mudlites. 

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    Full Muzzy system
     K&N Air
    DynaTech CDI
    Jetted
    Wheel Spacers and High Lifter 2" Lift
    Front and Rear Bumpers
     4000lbs Viper Elite
    EPI Almond Primary and Lime Green Secondary
    Gorilla Axle Radiator Relocation Kit, Snorkels
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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/23 17:21:36 (permalink)
    ok do I need a secondary?

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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/23 18:10:11 (permalink)
    Red at the most... it is a real good aggressive spring for those 29.5s, but if you want to do some trail runnin' with your lighter tires I would suggest an EPI Lime Green or a Blue.  I promise you, you will be very pleased with that kinda setup.

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    28" Highlifter Outlaws s/w on ITPs
    Full Muzzy system
     K&N Air
    DynaTech CDI
    Jetted
    Wheel Spacers and High Lifter 2" Lift
    Front and Rear Bumpers
     4000lbs Viper Elite
    EPI Almond Primary and Lime Green Secondary
    Gorilla Axle Radiator Relocation Kit, Snorkels
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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/23 18:14:18 (permalink)
    The Lime Green or Blue will give you a good 'middle road' between the 2 tire sets.  Something that will hold up very well to the extra strain of the 29.5s and yet keep most all of your top end.
    Frankly I love my Lime Green, I think that is the ultimate balance.  Cheers, and have fun with it.

    06 Brute Force 750i Camo
    28" Highlifter Outlaws s/w on ITPs
    Full Muzzy system
     K&N Air
    DynaTech CDI
    Jetted
    Wheel Spacers and High Lifter 2" Lift
    Front and Rear Bumpers
     4000lbs Viper Elite
    EPI Almond Primary and Lime Green Secondary
    Gorilla Axle Radiator Relocation Kit, Snorkels
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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/26 12:47:31 (permalink)
    will the maroon or almond primary help with pulling the fronts in the air with 28/29.5 outlaws?? because every1 likes that "showoff" factor 
    post edited by M0dd3d - 2011/06/26 12:49:00
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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/26 13:32:40 (permalink)
    That almond keeps the front up... I put it on there cause I run bog... different then mud... if I hit a hole with my front tires on the ground I dig in like a lawn dart...

    06 Brute Force 750i Camo
    28" Highlifter Outlaws s/w on ITPs
    Full Muzzy system
     K&N Air
    DynaTech CDI
    Jetted
    Wheel Spacers and High Lifter 2" Lift
    Front and Rear Bumpers
     4000lbs Viper Elite
    EPI Almond Primary and Lime Green Secondary
    Gorilla Axle Radiator Relocation Kit, Snorkels
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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/26 18:10:26 (permalink)
    what is the limit on where ur bike pulls the wheels up with the almond
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    Re:best clutch kit for brute force 2011/06/26 18:35:55 (permalink)
    limit?

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    Full Muzzy system
     K&N Air
    DynaTech CDI
    Jetted
    Wheel Spacers and High Lifter 2" Lift
    Front and Rear Bumpers
     4000lbs Viper Elite
    EPI Almond Primary and Lime Green Secondary
    Gorilla Axle Radiator Relocation Kit, Snorkels
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