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2014/02/08 11:26:18 (permalink)

XTR's, MudLites, Mayhems or Zillas.

Well, which tire should I get? I don't want too heavy of a tire to lose low-end power & performance. Probably stick with the stock size of 25's or get 26's.

I do mostly trail riding & also with Mud. 50/50

I'm debating on ITP XTR's, XL Mudlites, Mega Mayhems
OR
Maxxis's Zillas OR Silverback X-Lite.

I haven't bough my '14 Grizzly 700 yet, waiting to get my taxes back. This will be one of my first mods on my Grizzly.
I did have the ITP Mudlites on my '04 Rancher & it did very well.

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    Re:XTR's, MudLites, Mayhems or Zillas. 2014/02/08 12:15:54 (permalink)
    1) Zillas
    2) Mega Mayhems
    3) X-Lites (only putting these 3rd cause they ride rough, if ride quality isn't a concern then they're tied for 1st with the Zilllas imho)
    4) XTRs
    5) Mudslicks (these are a VERY distant last between these tires, and to be honest it would take me a good bit of thinking to think of a tire worse then them for all around use)

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    Re:XTR's, MudLites, Mayhems or Zillas. 2014/02/08 12:17:25 (permalink)
    Oh yeah, and imo go with 26-27s, your Grizz isn't gonna lose any noticeable power loss with the little extra height

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    Re:XTR's, MudLites, Mayhems or Zillas. 2014/02/08 13:12:01 (permalink)
    27" s/w mega mayhems. Bike will have no problem turning them. Much better in mud then zillas (more aggressive though 1.5" tread). They ride very good on trails i think. 

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    Re:XTR's, MudLites, Mayhems or Zillas. 2014/02/08 15:57:15 (permalink)
    I would definitely recommend a 26"- 27" tire. The advantages are well worth the minimal power loss vs a 25" tire. Here's my suggestions.
    1) I recommend the standard Mayhem vs the "Mega" Mayhem to save weight/power. They have a shallower tread at 1"-1.25" and are more trail friendly. They will perform good in the mud and should perform better than the Zilla's on mixed terrain.
    2) Maxxis Zilla - Super light weight and decent traction in the mud. Not the most durable or best wearing tire in the bunch.
    3) Silverback X-Lite - Light weight and good traction in the mud. Harsh ride on hard pack and lack durability.
    4) ITP Mudlite XTR - Great all around tire. Pull decent in the mud and perform great on all surfaces. They wear well and are tough. Downside is they are expensive.
    5) Mega Mayhem - 1.5" lugs make this tire more one dimensional (mud) than the others and the extra weight will tax more power from your Grizzly. If you're looking for the most traction, these should be your 1st selection.
    6) Mudlite XT's - These tires are definitely better than a standard A/T tire. But, they are not in the same league as the others mentioned. They are somewhere between a Big Horn and a Zilla in the mud without any benefit on hard pack/trail vs the other standard "lite" mud tires. They also wear quickly and have a reputation for sidewall punctures.  

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    Re:XTR's, MudLites, Mayhems or Zillas. 2014/02/09 07:25:41 (permalink)
    Zillas would be the lightest weight tire of your choices.

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    Re:XTR's, MudLites, Mayhems or Zillas. 2014/02/09 19:59:10 (permalink)
    Thanks guys, I've narrowed it down to the Zilla's, XTR's and the Mayhems. Which is heavier, the XTR's or Mayhems?
    If they still made the 589's, I would get them.
    Gonna get 26's.

    Btw, has anyone tried the ITP's Blackwater.
    They look decent.
    post edited by JJ STIN - 2014/02/09 20:01:25

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    Re:XTR's, MudLites, Mayhems or Zillas. 2014/02/10 04:08:07 (permalink)
    589's are still available and continue to be a great seller for ITP. Even the Titan version of the 589 is still available.

    Which version of Blackwater tires are you refering too? The old mud designed tire or the newly released all-terrain version? The older ones have long been discontinued.

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    Re:XTR's, MudLites, Mayhems or Zillas. 2014/02/10 10:10:53 (permalink)
    You can still get the 589's.  Here's the weight comparison of all each.
     
    Mayhem:
    26x9x12 = 24.9
    26x11x12 = 27.1
    Lug depth = 1.2"
    Mudlite XTR:
    26x9r12 = 26.9
    26x11rx12 = 32.4
    Lug depth = 1.12"
    Zilla:
    26x9x12 = 19.6
    26x11x12 = 23.3
    Lug depth = 1.19"
    589:
    26x9x12 = 28
    26x12x12 = 33
    Lug depth = 1"
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    Re:XTR's, MudLites, Mayhems or Zillas. 2014/02/10 11:47:42 (permalink)
    Like they said you can still get the 589s, and honestly they're still a very good tire, very tough.

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    Re:XTR's, MudLites, Mayhems or Zillas. 2014/02/10 12:43:41 (permalink)
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    Like they said you can still get the 589s, and honestly they're still a very good tire, very tough.

    They are a good tire, although they don't offer any distinct advantage over the others. You can still find dealers that have them available. However, they are not listed on ITP's website, which likely means they are being phased out and are no longer in production. This could present a problem should you ever need to replace one of them.  

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    Re:XTR's, MudLites, Mayhems or Zillas. 2014/02/10 14:11:40 (permalink)
    I have a set of xtr's on my ranger.  They ride awesome and pull very well for an AT tire.. .however, I have a side belt or lump in one of the rears and the two fronts both have cuts in the side wall.  I know stuff happens when you ride off rode... been doing it for more years than I want to claim, however, it just seems like the side walls on these tires aren't that great... and for what they cost I won't be replacing them with the same.

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    Re:XTR's, MudLites, Mayhems or Zillas. 2014/02/10 22:22:20 (permalink)
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    You can still get the 589's.  Here's the weight comparison of all each.

    Mayhem:
    26x9x12 = 24.9
    26x11x12 = 27.1
    Lug depth = 1.2"
    Mudlite XTR:
    26x9r12 = 26.9
    26x11rx12 = 32.4
    Lug depth = 1.12"
    Zilla:
    26x9x12 = 19.6
    26x11x12 = 23.3
    Lug depth = 1.19"
    589:
    26x9x12 = 28
    26x12x12 = 33
    Lug depth = 1"


    ONE of those four, I'm gonna get,
    I just can't narrow it down. How are the 589's on the trail, do they dig too much?

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    Re:XTR's, MudLites, Mayhems or Zillas. 2014/02/10 22:33:26 (permalink)
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    I have a set of xtr's on my ranger.  They ride awesome and pull very well for an AT tire.. .however, I have a side belt or lump in one of the rears and the two fronts both have cuts in the side wall.  I know stuff happens when you ride off rode... been doing it for more years than I want to claim, however, it just seems like the side walls on these tires aren't that great... and for what they cost I won't be replacing them with the same.

    I've heard the sidewalls aren't too strong on 'em.
    Just with them being heavy as the 589, I don't want too much heaviness on the bike.


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    Re:XTR's, MudLites, Mayhems or Zillas. 2014/02/14 15:39:49 (permalink)
    I have had two sets of the XTR's and had zero problems on them.I put 9100 miles on my first set and they were ridden every way but nice.
    I am on my second set now, 2100 miles and no problems.

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    Re:XTR's, MudLites, Mayhems or Zillas. 2014/02/17 12:28:07 (permalink)
    I've narrowed it down to two tires.
    The XTR's and the Mayhems.
    Gonna get 26's in size.

    Help me here guys.

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    Re:XTR's, MudLites, Mayhems or Zillas. 2014/02/17 12:39:41 (permalink)
    Of those two I'd go with XTRs
     
    But get the 27" s/w

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    Re:XTR's, MudLites, Mayhems or Zillas. 2014/02/17 12:56:11 (permalink)
    tcdawg

    Of those two I'd go with XTRs

    But get the 27" s/w


    27" what?

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    Re:XTR's, MudLites, Mayhems or Zillas. 2014/02/17 13:27:24 (permalink)
    Xtr's

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    Re:XTR's, MudLites, Mayhems or Zillas. 2014/02/17 22:10:13 (permalink)
    I know that they'll last longer.
    I'm just concerned about the weight.

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    Re:XTR's, MudLites, Mayhems or Zillas. 2014/02/18 21:51:16 (permalink)
    Should I get a 12 inch or 14 inch? 12 would be better, more sidewall & durable?

    I'll stay with 26, does the XTR run small?
    If they do, I'd get 27s,

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