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2012/02/09 06:23:51 (permalink)

Rhino Clutching(may be some helpful info)

I ordered the 16 gram greaseless round weights and purple spring about 6 months ago. Well I installed and wasn't that impressed with the bottom end. First when it all came in the spring was purple with white striping. At the time I just thought that was what they call the purple spring but recent research here I realized its two completely different springs. So I have a purple spring coming now hoping to get that bottom end I want. So if you ride mud don't go 16 gram and purple/white secondary cause it gives no bottom end but does give some good mid range.

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    Re:Rhino Clutching(may be some helpful info) 2012/02/09 07:14:17 (permalink)
    I would also recommend running 2mm shim. That's will help ya out a lot. If you hadn't already bought the greaseless rollers, I would recommend talking with JBS about his sheave. I'm considering getting one of them

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    Re:Rhino Clutching(may be some helpful info) 2012/02/09 09:51:42 (permalink)
    Yeah I'm running greaseless rollers and I bought a 1-2mm shim kit. Gonna try it with no shim and the new purple spring to see how it does. Then I will try the shims.

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    Re:Rhino Clutching(may be some helpful info) 2012/02/09 11:14:32 (permalink)
    If you are looking for low end, shims or machined primary are where it's at.

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    Re:Rhino Clutching(may be some helpful info) 2012/02/09 11:32:18 (permalink)
    So I am running a stock grizzly sheave with 16 gram greaseless rollers and orange spring. If I add shims I should see a big improvement in low end? I have tons of top end with being about to run about 55-58 miles an hour. But low end I struggle. lol
     
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    Re:Rhino Clutching(may be some helpful info) 2012/02/09 12:50:36 (permalink)
    Shims lower the overall gear ratio.  Will lose top but gain bottom.  Look up the procedure as you have to be careful putting things back together after adding shims so you don't mess up the splines.

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    Re:Rhino Clutching(may be some helpful info) 2012/02/09 17:26:02 (permalink)
     I contacted JBS today about machining my sheave, he and everyone else claims it helps a ton I'm sending him mine Monday. I too suffer from terrible low end, to date i have: CDI, exhaust, 16gram OD weights, EPI belt, gold spring and 1mm shim all helped but minimal improvement. I'll post next weekend the results.

     
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    Re:Rhino Clutching(may be some helpful info) 2012/02/09 19:02:17 (permalink)
    i run the orange spring in mine with 16g weights.
    i can tell you those heavy 27" xtrs are killing your bottom end, they did mine. i went from bighorns to xtrs and it was a big difference. i now have 28" zillas and can spin the heck out of them.
    also the jbs sheave is where its at, ill order mine in next week or so hopefully

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    Re:Rhino Clutching(may be some helpful info) 2012/02/09 20:51:05 (permalink)
    Make sure the JBS sheave is compatible with your overdrive weights.  Most machined sheaves are made for the round weights.  When I had mine done it was especially for the overdrive weights.

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    Re:Rhino Clutching(may be some helpful info) 2012/02/09 20:59:06 (permalink)
    Moto92, XTR's arent that heavy. I am running 28" Swamp Witch tires on stock SE rims now. Not trying to call you out or anything. I looked em up and they are like 27lb fronts and 32 lb rears. Not bad at all for a radial.
    The shims lower the belt further into the sheave causing it to grab faster. I have heard a lot about the custom sheaves and how great they are but I think I will just stick with what I got.

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    Re:Rhino Clutching(may be some helpful info) 2012/02/09 21:01:14 (permalink)
    the jbs sheave is machined to use the overdrive weights. before all sheaves were machined to gain top end and nothing on bottom, really it was for the duner guys
    jbs does a bottom end machine, then matched with the od weights now you gain bottom and top end
    thats why everyone is loving the new jbs sheave

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    Re:Rhino Clutching(may be some helpful info) 2012/02/09 21:36:33 (permalink)
    Another vote for the JBS here, best mod you can do in my opinion. I have the MSD Charge and JBS with 16 gr weights and no other performance mods(stock intake, filter,exhaust) and the low end is awesome plus still has been 61 mph on the digital dash, on slight downhill.

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    Re:Rhino Clutching(may be some helpful info) 2012/02/12 22:33:32 (permalink)
    The JBS Hot Rod Sheave is the only way to go if you want the best. I had a gold secondary spring 14gm greaseless rollers, & 1mm shim & a bunch of other mods. Running 29.5 s/w Laws & it was in a bind most of the time in bad mud. Got the JBS sheave w/14gm greaseless overdrive weights & will spin the **** out of the 29.5's now, I have got in a couple spots where it bogged some. Well worth the money & James will answer any questions you have. A great guy to deal with. Best mod yet ! ! ! IMO don't waste ur time or money on any other clutch kits or fixes.
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    Re:Rhino Clutching(may be some helpful info) 2012/02/13 08:09:35 (permalink)
    can someone PM me a number or website for JBS thanks

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    Re:Rhino Clutching(may be some helpful info) 2012/02/13 10:00:05 (permalink)
    Look him up on the RhinoForums dot net. I have his sheave in my Rhino 700 and run 27" Radial Outlaws. He specifically machines the Rhino sheave for greaseless overdrive sliders, of which I am using the 16 gram variety and the stock 700 secondary spring. The guy does decent work.

    My particular setup will spin the 27s real good and still hit 50mph before the rev limiter kicks in.

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    Re:Rhino Clutching(may be some helpful info) 2012/02/24 07:47:05 (permalink)
    Update: I got the purple spring and put in a 1mm shim. Wow what a difference I have a lot of low end power now. Spin the heck out of the tires on dry ground!

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    Re:Rhino Clutching(may be some helpful info) 2012/04/06 12:59:06 (permalink)
    Will my Hunterworks OD weights and Cam sliders work with a JBS sheave?
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    Re:Rhino Clutching(may be some helpful info) 2012/04/06 13:30:16 (permalink)
    I'm running 16 gram greaseless OD weights without the dust cover on the sheave, orange secondary spring, and a 1mm shim. I just ordered another shim... gonna try to take it to 2mm or 1.5. We had some rubbing issues with 2mm on my friends rhino.

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    Re:Rhino Clutching(may be some helpful info) 2012/04/06 14:58:33 (permalink)
    Silverados... Yea you should be able to use them with the JBS. Ask him when you call him up

    Craka... My belt rubbed slightly with a 2mm. But wasn't enough to go thru the cover.

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    Re:Rhino Clutching(may be some helpful info) 2012/04/06 16:17:10 (permalink)
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    Silverados... Yea you should be able to use them with the JBS. Ask him when you call him up

    Craka... My belt rubbed slightly with a 2mm. But wasn't enough to go thru the cover.

    I will ask him.  I'm also going to see if I can send my sheave to him for machining.  Trying to save some $$.
    I'm also going to get a 1mm shim from Yamaha.  Does anybody know the part#.
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    Re:Rhino Clutching(may be some helpful info) 2012/04/07 00:39:09 (permalink)
    I tries alot of combos of springs and weighs and shims and still wasnt satisfied. I got my jbs sheave when they just came out and were just getting big,  before the hw new sheave. I have a 700 so I went the with the gold spring and 18 grams and the jbs sheave. Since I have had the sheave in my rhino with over 1000 miles on trails, mud, sand and hill climbs, It is the best mod you can do to any rhino, as for clutching. Better top end, great super low end and pulls hard. I had 28 wide zillas on itp deltas and it pulled them all the time, everywhere. Def look into jbs. Best investment I made into my rhino. I sold the rhino as of last week and was still working great. JBS ftw

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    Re:Rhino Clutching(may be some helpful info) 2012/04/07 09:04:58 (permalink)
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    I tries alot of combos of springs and weighs and shims and still wasnt satisfied. I got my jbs sheave when they just came out and were just getting big,  before the hw new sheave. I have a 700 so I went the with the gold spring and 18 grams and the jbs sheave. Since I have had the sheave in my rhino with over 1000 miles on trails, mud, sand and hill climbs, It is the best mod you can do to any rhino, as for clutching. Better top end, great super low end and pulls hard. I had 28 wide zillas on itp deltas and it pulled them all the time, everywhere. Def look into jbs. Best investment I made into my rhino. I sold the rhino as of last week and was still working great. JBS ftw

    Thats what I plan on doing, just as soon as I have some extra $$.
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