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2010/12/06 16:19:47 (permalink)

Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750

Can anyone here tell me if the 800 has that much more power then the 750? I had an o7 outlander 800 for a couple years but had too sell it. Now I want another 4x4 quad. I loved the power of the can am but have never riden or raced a kawi 750. I feel the can am is way over priced but like big hp.
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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/06 16:28:09 (permalink)
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    Can anyone here tell me if the 800 has that much more power then the 750? I had an o7 outlander 800 for a couple years but had too sell it. Now I want another 4x4 quad. I loved the power of the can am but have never riden or raced a kawi 750. I feel the can am is way over priced but like big hp.
    Thanks for any advice.


    I'm NOT knocking the Brute at all, it's "plenty strong" power wise. The brute feels "stronger" than it is because of it's tendency to wheelie. Is the Can Am quicker and faster?? Yes, by a fair margin in my experience. The Can Am defiantly handles better and I think you will find it to be far more reliable.
     
    The cost difference is not that large if you REALLY shop for the best deal on the Can Am. I couldn't have bought new Brute for what I paid for either of my new Outty's..

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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/06 16:29:04 (permalink)
    I have a 2008 can am max with an 840 motor and on dry ground my 840 brute will beat it every time. As far as racing in the pit I think that the can ams dominate. A brute is a ton of fun to ride and play on. The can am is a more comfortable ride.

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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/06 16:55:26 (permalink)
    Ok well thanks for the replies so far. I do have another question. I'm really liking the Can Am xmr!!!!!!!! Has anyone on here bought one, and if you don't mind sharing, what did you end up paying out the door?
    Thanks again!!
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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/06 17:42:53 (permalink)
    one of my friends bought one not to long ago and if im not mistaking i believe he payed a little over $13,000 for it
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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/06 17:46:21 (permalink)
    i HAD A BRUTE AND A 800 CAN AM.  THE CAN AM IS HANDS DOWN A SUPERIOR BIKE. PERIOD

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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/06 17:50:52 (permalink)
    I ride with a lot of newer 750 brute forces AKA "broke force" i have a 2010 outlander 800 and stock its the outty all the way in a drag race  ive race all 8 of the guys who ride 750 brutes in our crew and have not been out run yet ive rode a few of them and they handle ok imo can-am handles better brute is to light in the front end and the 8 of them that ride with us stay broke and really dont get abused that badly at all

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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/06 17:57:02 (permalink)
    can ams ride better and make a bit better mid to top end power than the brutes with both in stock form. i like both bikes and all but some of can am's stuff is overpriced imo. if anybody says they are oh so much tuffer and all i would question it. both bikes brake axles and stuff like that but u do hear of more brute engine problems but imo alot of it is to do with the riders, every joe blow can get a brute cheap and think hes king of the hole and go sink it and thats where problems arise. most of the guys on can ams have a little experience riding where many brute guys are 1st timers and see power and think they know it all lol

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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/06 17:59:07 (permalink)
    Another question. My wife wants to know if the kawi's have power steering.
    Thanks guys!
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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/06 18:01:39 (permalink)
    cbull

    Another question. My wife wants to know if the kawi's have power steering.
    Thanks guys!


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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/06 18:59:14 (permalink)
    Can-am is quicker, rides better, handles better.
    Kawasaki has more ground clearance and is a pretty good all around bike with lots of power.
     
    Can-am is the better bike but if you're on a budget, the brute is still a good bike.

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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/06 19:49:38 (permalink)
    ive had 2 canam 800's and 1 brute 750...can am is worth the extra money. overall it is a much better built machine

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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/06 20:23:30 (permalink)
    All great replies thanks guys! Now I just need to know if they will in the next year be putting the 1000cc in the xmr. It would be worth waiting until 2013 if I knew they would do something that wild.
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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/06 20:37:34 (permalink)
    7 months from today, is usually when they announce the new lineup. i am eagerly awaiting that day. it seems likely that the 1000cc would hit the XMR first

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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/06 20:55:43 (permalink)
    Roughly 85 hp stock that would AWSOME! I really shouln't buy anything until next fall anyways so by then we should all know if the commander 1000cc will be in any of the outties, **** it would even be sweeter to see that much hp stock in the renagaed!! And for some of us there will never be to much HP!
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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/06 20:58:59 (permalink)
    I just don't see how the Can Am is superior to the brute!!! I have had about 15 brutes and currently have two can am Max. The can am is definitely a better race bike but the brute is a great machine too. They both will break if not properly maintained. My next single seater will be a can am unless kawi makes some changes. For the price and if your not racing and maintain your bike well the brute is the better value in my opinion.

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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/06 20:59:42 (permalink)
    like i said in the above post...Can-Am announces their new lineup in June, so you will know if its gonna be in there the first week of june...you will know before summer is officially under way

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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/07 00:24:34 (permalink)
    i've owned 3 can am's and three brutes,,,,i like the brutes for fun riding,,,but if ya compare the machines you'll see heavier-duty parts on the can am,,,tie-rods,,ball joints,,,axles,,,have had numerous friends who have had alot of parts on the brutes break,,,rear knuckles,,,tie-rods,,ball joints,,,rear main seals leak on most,,,easy fix though,,,guess it comes down to,,,the kind of rider you are,,,if ya like wheelies,,and low-end power,,,plus maintenance,,get a brute,,,but the outty is a better machine..especially the 2010's and 2011's,,,with power-steering and qe-visco lock,,ya get what ya pay for...
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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/07 00:46:53 (permalink)
    I've raced a Brute 750 with pipe and clutch kit and it jumped ahead of my bone stock XP off the line but it didn't take long before my 850 reeled it in and ripped past. Now take off like 70lbs and add an extra horse to the 850 and you have yourself a Can-Am.
     
    As far as I'm concerned I'd go for the Can-Am over Kawi just because if the creature comforts and extra power Can-Am over has Kawi.
     
    Its all based on personal opinion but wouldn't you rather take the one with EPS, and an auto locking diff and more power? Yeah the Brute is nice but The little yellow lever is kindof a pain I find.

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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/07 06:47:48 (permalink)
    Sounds like the polairs might be something worth looking at. I have never been a fan of the polairs quads. I have seen to many of them go down, they have always been a heavy machine and was never very impressed with the power. Now I have no experiance with the newer ones maybe there better now. What can you guys tell me about the new polaris's?
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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/07 07:57:24 (permalink)
    I would stick with your first 2 choices lol.

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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/07 08:02:21 (permalink)
    Ya I will it took me about 25 minutes of researching to decide on not getting a Polaris. As I thought, still tanks!
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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/07 08:47:24 (permalink)
    Well if you want to spend the money the commander 1000cc engine WILL fit in a outlander frame with NO cutting but its reeeaallyyy tight in there! some guys at the local can-am shop had a commander motor out of 1 doing some mods to it and just to see if it would fit they put in in an outty frame or at least thats what they tell me anyway i did not see it myself

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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/07 10:12:21 (permalink)
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    I just don't see how the Can Am is superior to the brute!!! I have had about 15 brutes and currently have two can am Max. The can am is definitely a better race bike but the brute is a great machine too. They both will break if not properly maintained. My next single seater will be a can am unless kawi makes some changes. For the price and if your not racing and maintain your bike well the brute is the better value in my opinion.


    Cmon Jack...owning both bikes, you can clearly see that the Can-Am's are a better built machine. Just the whole design of the bike is better...right down to the plastics. the ride is superior, has an alarm, stronger motor...etc. nothing against the brutes, they are by far the best bang for your buck, but you can also get the base outty 800 for a grand more than a brute, and have a much better engineered bike, for only a little more money. untill i had the motorbuilt on my brute...now your brute...i had nothing but problems with it. bent tie rods, blown motors, multiple battery and electrical problem's, and more i cant think of. never once did i have any issues with either my outty or gade. however once flynt got ahold of the motor, it was a much better bike...plus by then i had figured out all the buss connector issues, and the other problem i had with it. im sure shes been great for you, since you bought it, but it took me alot to get it to the pint where i sold it to you...including me accidently putting the belt on backwards...lmfao!

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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/07 11:23:34 (permalink)
    brute all the way!  by far the best quad on the market today!  be sure to buy two......one to get down the trail and the other to get you back to camp!
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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/07 12:36:48 (permalink)
    MSRP to MSRP....brute is a better value. However, if you shop around you can get a leftover Can-Am 800 for around $8k (or less)....hard to beat that. I've owned two can-ams and one Brute. Brutes seem to have a few issues that Kawi just hasn't addressed (tie rod ends, leaky rear seal, etc). Still a fun bike to ride....but I'll never own another Kawi (unless they make some changes). Can-ams may not be as perfect as some on this forum might lead you to believe but I think they're the best out there (at least for now) so I'll keep driving them until something better comes out.

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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/07 12:43:41 (permalink)
    Atamagashock, how can you compare your Can Ams to your brute? You never kept them long enough to ride them!!! Lol!!!! I guess my opinion is a little off since my brute is not stock and actually is an 840. I still say the brute is a good value. You just have to learn the quirks they have and deal with them.

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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/07 13:38:25 (permalink)
    A BF 750 has no chance in a drag against an Outlander 800...done this race a million times....a better race is BF750 vs 650 Outlander...much closer.

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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/07 21:58:45 (permalink)
    If you are considering a 750 brute then why not consider the 650 outlander?

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    Re:Question on Can Am 800 vs brute force 750 2010/12/08 06:18:43 (permalink)
    Currently own both. I can say hands down I'll never buy a Brute for myself. The wife wanted it and didn't want anything but it. Bought the Brute brand new from the Kawa dealer and since day 1, it's been back to the service department more times than any of the bikes I've owned combined. 5 leaking rear seals, electrical problems, fuses, relays, ball joints, axles, A arm bushings, brakes twice, front dif, front dif seals. And even now the 5th rear seal is leaking again, the radiator is leaking from somewhere you can't even see, the front dif seal is leaking again and it's still running so rich I can't stand to be behind her on the trail, even after new plugs, air filter and a complete Kawa tune up service.
     
    This is all on a bone stock bike with 28's and rims. No exhaust, no snorkels, no anything. The bike is just not as reliable as a Can Am and some of the design flaws are just mind boggling. Why on earth they would put the gas cap in a hole like they do, or the plastic tray under the seat holding the electronics or the dumbest thing where you can't even take the radiator cap off unless you take the whole front of the bike apart is beyond me. And yes, the 800 Can Am will walk the dog on her 750 Brute. Stock for stock and 28's on both. We raced both ways and even raced with another rider on her Brute. I even gave up 100 lbs to the rider on her Brute and still walked away from him.

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