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2004/10/27 21:26:01 (permalink)

Make a list of common numbers we need

After a bad experience with a dealer and a warranty claim, I had to hussle to come up with lots of parts to get my 700 ready for the weekend.
It would have made my life easier if I had a list of part numbers ready for the local bearing shop or auto parts store.
Help me make a list of numbers for wheel bearings, fan, and other parts commonly available for less money than dealers get. At this moment I need front wheel bearing numbers for my 04.5 sportsman. As the list grows I will put it all together for easy print out. THANKS for helping.
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    SemperVigilo
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2004/10/27 22:30:08 (permalink)
    Thanks for the info Ronnie, but the point of this post is to stay away from the dealer. I want numbers crossed to cheaper parts.
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2004/10/27 22:42:23 (permalink)
    will we be able to take the numbers that are on the list at that website and get them crossed over at the parts house? Are those numbers able to be cross referenced?
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2004/10/28 05:47:33 (permalink)
    Not being smart, but it is always good to do a search for such items. I just posted all the bearing info last week.

    http://www.highlifter.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=881584&an=0&page=1#881584

    I found that the best place to buy bearings is from pivot works. $29.95 for both front and $54.95 for both rear.(SP700) Even though you can get the rears from napa they still cost like $35 each. I have the parts numbers and sizes on my previous post.
    Yes I'm currently working on a list of common P/N's for any item I can get info on. It would be nice if everyone could help pitch in and get a good list together.
    Here's a couple of things I've already got.

    SP700 the u-joints on the rear drive shaft= NAPA# 338 yes it is a common u-joint and it comes with a grease fitting for around $8

    Someone stated on a post here that you can get the fan for a 500 (should not be any differant for a 700) @ 800-341-7757 p/n 30100515 for around $85

    As far as oil seals go. I've always measured and ordered form a local "bearings and drives" store. Most of the time you can get better seals than OEM. (double or triple lipped)
    (I've yet to replace any seals on my 700)

    Next project is to find a "Cheep" replacement for the tie rod ends. Something with a grease fitting. I've found some already just need to order them and try them out.

    What would be great is if someone could find us an automotive p/n for a c.v. axle or outer joint that would fit.

    Anyone else got any info?????
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2004/10/28 09:11:27 (permalink)
    Thermal sensor - tells fan when to come on - Wells SW526 less than $30

    Specialty tools for Polaris can be bought at www.victorspecialtytools.com at reasonable prices

    STP oil filter for 400 & 500 (not sure if it crosses to 600 & 700) SMO17

    I purchased the fan from www.offroadwarehouse.com as mentioned in MOVE, GET OUT THE WAY's post and it is the EXACT fan with the same electrical connector, even had the same "inspected by" sticker, was $87 shipped (I think the 700 fan is different, pull the fan and give them the part # from the back and they will send you the correct one)

    I got my rear bearings (pair) off of ebay for $37 shipped.
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2004/10/28 22:37:14 (permalink)
    Keep um coming!


    Sp700 Rear wheel bearings Federal-Mogul Bearings 510013
    Sp700 Front wheel bearings BCA 510014
    Sp700 Rear drive shaft u-joints NAPA#338
    ?? Thermal sensor - tells fan when to come on - Wells SW526 less than $30
    Sp400&500 Oil Filter STP SMO17
    Sp?? Fan www.offroadwarehouse.com
    Sp500 Fan p/n 30100515 800-341-7757
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2004/10/29 09:38:07 (permalink)
    Received a PM from Snowride of ATV Frontier, indicating the information in this post was compiled by him and Farmr from that site.

    Snowride asks for credit and attribution to him and Farmr for the effort they put into developing the information.

    Please give authors credit for information obtained from them.

    Outlaw_Monster


    I have no idea how correct this info is. This is all the info on the Frontier.
    Polaris Thermostatic Fan Switch
    July 03 2003/Updated Nov 15 2003

    Thermostatic Fan Switch (Thermal Sensor) (Polaris part # 4010161)

    The radiator fan is turned on automatically when the thermal sensor reaches a certain temp to assist in cooling the engine coolant by blowing air through the cooling fins of the radiator. A defective sensor will guarantee an overheat situation. I found this on another site and it was confirmed a perfect fit and the specs say it will work fine.

    Original Polaris fan switch, #4010161, $75..Contacts on @ 180 degrees
    Contacts off @ 149 degrees

    Non-OEM, manufactured by Wells #SW526, $20.....Contacts on @ 194 degrees
    Contacts off @ 174 degrees

    Heres another one which a member over at the quadsquad has used on his 700. It is a Napa part # is FS147, the brand is Echlin . Cost $22

    The application is for Nissan/Datsun 1984-1990 and can be found at any auto parts store.

    Although the temp range is slightly higher on the non-OEM, I do not see any problems. The engine coolant thermostat starts opening at 176 degrees and is fully open at 205 degrees. This means the ideal operating range of the engine is fully respected but may cause the fan to come on a little more frequently or sometimes less frequently depending on the conditions.

    I have checked recent models and found the same part # for all the Polaris liquid cooled machines. This means the Wells unit will work in the 700/600/500/400. I do suggest you make sure your model requires the same Polaris part # as I have listed above before ordering the Wells unit.


    Polaris, Light Bulbs
    Pod bulb (Polaris part # 4010161, new style) (# 2870448, old style, H4)

    There are 2 types of bulbs that are used by Polaris in the Sportsman pod. In general, 03 and up will have a 90-degree connector with 2 pins. The replacement bulb can be found almost anywhere if you ask for a GE 886 If you want a slight improvement and a much whiter light, then I recommend you get one of these, unfortunately they only come in 2 packs but at this price, who cares.



    This bulb can be purchased HERE

    PS. Do not confuse a GE#894, although it will fit and work, it is only 35watt as opposed to the stocker which is 50watt.

    Models before 03 will have a straight connector with 3 male spades protruding from the bulb. This is also available wherever they sell automotive lights but the wattage/color selection is almost mind-boggling. Ask for a H4 50/65watt if you want the equivalent to stock. Below is a pick of what the H4 bulb looks like.


    I recommend the PIAA brand Extreme White # 15261 (single pack) as there product gives far surperior lighting to anything else I have tried, unfortunately the quality is reflected in the price. The PIAA bulb can be found on ebay at a reduced price when compared to the PIAA SITE

    Tail/Brake Light Bulb (Polaris part # 4030043)

    Polaris uses a standard 2-filament bulb found in almost all cars. This is also available almost anywhere by asking for a # 1157 or GE 198 bulb.

    Bumper Mounted Light Bulb (Polaris part # 4030059)

    At this point in time you have no choice but to order the OEM Polaris bulb @ $15ea as there are no aftermarket bulbs available. I have found you can purchase a complete set of driving/fog lights for $20, which will improve the lighting substantially since they come with 55-watt, H3 halogen bulbs and much better replaceable lenses vs. the Polaris 37watt bulbs and non replaceable lenses. Replacement H3 bulbs can be had for just a few dollars.



    Polaris, Oil Filters
    March 24 2004
    Here is a link to a cross reference chart for those of you who may elect to use a different filter than the original one.
    The neat thing about the link is if you click on the appropriate oil filter for your machine it will bring up another window showing the specs and a picture, but the neatest part is when you click on the "show all applications" link provided , it will give you a listing of everything that uses this same oil filter. You will likely get a long list of cars, tractors, lawn mowers, ect, which is super handy when you go to your local car parts place and ask for a filter for a certain car as opposed to a filter for an ATV where they look at you kinda funny because alot of these people do not even know what an ATV is. Once you know the cross reference vehicle, this opens the door for every brand of filter out there. Cool huh.
    Wix Cross Reference
    A special thanks to scottytohotty for posting these Napa numbers
    Napa Oil Filter #1357:, All the Polaris twins

    Napa Oil Filter #1358:, All the Polaris single cylinder


    Polaris, Steering Post Bushing
    If you have an OLDER Polaris machine, one with the PLASTIC lower steering post bushing, and it wears out, there is available a far superior product. The one made by HPD is truly a 'lifetime' replacement. I have yet to see one ever worn out that was ever greased. Heck, I know of a couple that were never greased, and are still going. Available direct from www.hpd-inc.com or www.rittercycle.com for about $30. It is a direct fit for the Polaris PLASTIC bushing, except for needing to drill out the mounting holes a little, because the bolts that hold it are heavier-duty than the rivets Polaris used. This can easily be done with a right-angle drill, or a Dremel-type tool. The bushing sometimes seems quite 'tight' a fit, but it soon breaks in and steers as easily as ever.

    Steering Post Bushing (Polaris part # 5431570)

    Note: This is a replacement for the PLASTIC bushings ONLY. When Polaris switched to the METAL one from the factory, they changed the sizes of some of the components, so it will not fit those. I realize this is not available at NAPA or most automotive stores, but I feel the product is so superior; it is worth getting mail order.



    Polaris, Super Strength Tie Rod Ends
    March 28 2004
    OK, here we go.
    I got my tie rod ends from MSC Industrial supply 1-800-645-7270. All part numbers are off their big book. I don't have any cross-reference numbers. You will have to measure your tie rods to see what you need, that part will be up to you. If you are OK with that, here goes:

    Tie rod ends for machines with the 1/2 inch diameter fine thread tie rods (20 threads per inch) such as what is on my 1999 Xplorer:
    For extra-strength tie rod ends (15,000# rated) the part number is:
    35398700
    That is for a 1/2 inch fine thread female tie rod end. The inner end is right hand thread, the outer one is left hand thread. The part numbers are the same, you need to specify RH or LH thread when ordering. If you don't specify, you will probably get RH thread.
    The center hole of these ends is larger than the Polaris one. You will either have to drill the hole out on your machine, and use a larger bolt, or get bushings to make up the difference. I used bushings. The bushing part #s are:
    06454524 bushing for the outer tie rod end
    90845942 bushing for the inner tie rod end.
    The outer tie rod end needs just a little extra clearance to work properly, so I used a bushing with a small shoulder built into it. I placed this shoulder between the tie rod end and strut, and it works fine. The inner doesn't need the extra clearance, so it gets a standard bushing.
    Cost, out of last year's book is $19.66 for the tie rod ends, and 55 cents each bushing. You may or may not need to get bolts (3/8 inch hardware store stuff) to attatch the outer ends, depending on year and model.


    Now, if you have an older machine, or any one with the 3/8 inch fine threaded tie rods, your tie rod end part # will be:
    35398684
    This is for a 3/8 inch tie rod end, 3/8 inch fine female thread. No bushings will be needed. Again, you may need to go to the hardware store for bolts on the outers, or may not, depending on your machine.

    The only other consideration is that since these are heavy-duty ends, they are slightly larger than the stockers. If you have oversized tires that almost rub the ends, they may touch these. I would say you lose just under 1/4 inch of clearance between the tie rod end and tire (my guess). These are super-strength ends, with teflon bearings, and will definately outlast the stockers. I triple checked the part numbers, and sure hope I got them all right, but measuring the tie rod ends is up to you.
    UPDATE
    The OUTER tie rod ends on the older machines, the ones with the 3/8 inch tie rod, can also use part # 35398783
    This tie rod end will have a stud where it fits into the strut, instead of just an eye. It will be similar to the original equipment like what is on my brother's '95 Xpress, and won't need an additional bolt for it's use.

    Also, if you order anything from MSC, be sure to ask them to include a copy of their BIG book. Has more stuff like this (and bearings, tools, etc, etc) than you can shake a stick at. To give you an idea of just how much stuff they have in the book (also available on CD) the tie rod ends are on page 3798

    They also have a website, if you want pictures of what the parts look like, you can go to http://www.mscdirect.com/

    The Polaris part #s for the outer tie rod end, 1/2 inch tie rod is 7061033
    which has been updated to Polaris # 7061054

    The Polaris part # for the inner tie rod end, 1/2 inch is 7061034

    I don't have the part #s for the 3/8 inch tie rod.
    Remember that the 1/2 inch tie rod ends need the bushings in them, as the eye diameter is bigger than the mounting bolt. The MSC part #s are in my previous post.
    I might also add that on some (especially older) machines, the inner tie rods may be a tight fit. You can get them to work by 'staggering' them, as they do on the newer machines. They put one end between the ears on the steering post, and use a longer bolt (with a spacer between the ears so they won't crush) and put the other end beneath the ears. This should give enough clearance to make it work. I thought I would add this as my Xplorer already had them 'staggered' from the factory, but brother's older Xpress had both between the ears on the steering post.


    Polaris, Universal Joints
    June 04 2003
    Feb 10 2004 (modified)

    A special thanks to beerman for testing and supplying the front universal joint numbers.

    This is one of those items that are supposed to be maintenance free and are therefore called lube free. I believe the intentions of Polaris were good because the most common complaint was we had to grease to many fittings. Polaris listened to the customers and we ended up almost maintenance free. I my opinion, they did well but should have left the universal joints with grease zerks on them. I think lube less refers more to what they eventually will become, rather than what they are! If you are the type who believes greasing is not important and do not do it on a regular basis, I recommend you remain with the sealed Polaris type.


    Universal joint for rear prop shaft,(Polaris part #) 2202015(sealed, no grease zerk) 600/700 @ $24.99

    Napa equivalent, with grease zerk # 1501 @ $8

    Polaris universal joint for all 4x4 models everywhere up front (Polaris part #) # 3260104 # $29.99

    Federal-Mogul Driveline Products Precision Universal Joint #338 $12.95



    As always, please verify the Polaris part # I have listed is the one you require for your ride before ordering it.
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2004/10/29 21:30:20 (permalink)
    Next on my want list is the numbers for all seals and bearings on the 700 front differential. Anyone?
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2004/10/31 19:38:08 (permalink)
    Another number for a rear driveshaft U-Joint is NAPA 210-0170. Just put one in today so I know its right. This is a greasable u-joint. Thanks for posting this stuff, it really helps when the dealer is a little ways away and too expensive.
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2004/11/04 06:12:36 (permalink)
    After searching for awhile. It seems that SP700 replacement tie rod ends are not out there. You either have to buy Polaris or the EPI tie rod ends.($$$) Because the female end is 1/2 inch and hole in the ball is 3/8. You can only get either 1/2 and 1/2 or 3/8 and 3/8. If you want to save some money you can do one of three things.
    1. Buy the 1/2 by 1/2 and buy the spacers as mentioned in
    the post above.
    2. Buy the 1/2 by 1/2 and drill out the mountin holes in
    the strut housing and the steering post. Then change to
    1/2 hardware.
    3. Buy the 3/8 by 3/8 rod ends and also buy a 3/8 tie rod.

    I found 1/2 rod ends at a local store for $16.50 with a grease fitting. (commerical grade)
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2004/11/07 20:33:39 (permalink)
    bump
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2004/11/08 18:44:53 (permalink)
    I searched last night through Polaris for bearings, trying to find if anyone had taken the time to post crossed numbers for the front rearend on the 700. Did not find any post with that info within the last year. In the next few weeks when I rebuild mine, I will post here all bearings and seals that can be crossed and found at the auto parts store are the local bearing shop.
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2004/11/16 10:45:33 (permalink)
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2004/11/22 18:57:37 (permalink)
    The fan/motor that was posted for $85.00, checked it out and it's not water proof like the one from polaris. That is why it is so cheap!!!!!
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2004/11/24 23:57:23 (permalink)
    http://www.offroadwarehouse.com/Store_ViewProdDetail.asp?ProdID=8588
    Quote:

    The fan/motor that was posted for $85.00, checked it out and it's not water proof like the one from polaris. That is why it is so cheap!!!!!


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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2004/12/06 20:55:24 (permalink)
    Need a engine oil filter for your sp600 or sp700. Super Tech ST7317 at Wallmart. Comes in handy when you milk your engine and can't get a Polaris filter! It is the same size as OEM.
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2004/12/06 21:56:18 (permalink)
    Need a front dif rebuild, these parts worked on my 04.5 700.
    • 2 Federal Mogul 108 (output bearing)
    • 2 Federal Mogul 710308 (output seals)
    • 1 Federal Mogul 306 (input bearing)
    • 1 Federal Mogul 9748 (input seal)
    • 1 CR Speedi-Sleeve 99098 (for input shaft seal)
    • 1 NTA 815 (needle bearing)

    As for as I can find out any parts other than bearings and seals will be OEM only.
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2004/12/06 22:11:53 (permalink)
    Print this list to save a little $ or maybe get you going after hours (highlight what you want to print-right click- choose print-choose selection-press print, at least mine works this way!)

    Sp700 Rear wheel bearings Federal-Mogul Bearings 510013
    Sp700 Front wheel bearings BCA 510014
    Sp700 Rear drive shaft u-joints NAPA#338
    ?? Thermal sensor - tells fan when to come on - Wells SW526 less than $30
    Sp400&500 Oil Filter STP SMO17
    Sp?? Fan www.offroadwarehouse.com
    Sp500 Fan p/n 30100515 800-341-7757
    sp600 or sp700 oil filter Super Tech ST7317 at Wallmart

    Need a front dif rebuild, these parts worked on my 04.5 700.
    2 Federal Mogul 108 (output bearing)
    2 Federal Mogul 710308 (output seals)
    1 Federal Mogul 306 (input bearing)
    1 Federal Mogul 9748 (input seal)
    1 CR Speedi-Sleeve 99098 (for input shaft seal)
    1 NTA 815 (needle bearing)

    Now we have a nice list started, KEEP UM COMING!
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2004/12/07 11:12:58 (permalink)
    I found a Chicago Rawhide oil seal that works for the (output seal) on front diff.

    CR# 15801
    40x52x7
    (less than $4 ea.


    Also the same NAPA u-joint(338) works on the inner joint of front stock c.v. axle. (SP700)
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2004/12/18 09:52:54 (permalink)
    Convert most any ATV oil filter at this site. Conversion list Thanks to Buzsaw for this information.
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2004/12/21 04:22:13 (permalink)
    Does anyone know a part number for front hub seals?
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2005/02/02 11:17:35 (permalink)
    You've got a dang good list goin here. Anybody know where to get a CV-joint rebuild kit for polaris??
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2005/02/02 11:46:58 (permalink)
    Quote:

    You've got a dang good list goin here. Anybody know where to get a CV-joint rebuild kit for polaris??




    You would be better off saving up and buying a gorilla.
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2005/02/07 19:35:01 (permalink)
    Does anyone have a good number for the CV joint boots? I put one on today but it is rubbing the strut. Don't know how long it will last. Thanks for the list.
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2005/02/17 07:25:44 (permalink)
    Sorry I took so long to reply. I believe that you can use a 86-96 ford escort c.v. boot to replace a gorilla.
    I have to do this some time this weekend also.
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2005/02/21 21:09:45 (permalink)
    Quote:

    KOKUSAN IGNITION KIT POLARIS P/N'S:2202603 (600),
    2202602 (700)




    Are these numbers aftermarket, or Polaris? If aftermarket where do you get them?
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2005/03/01 21:45:05 (permalink)
    I had to replace a boot on my outlaw axle, and it was a 85 ford escort.Does any one have anything for the starter, maybe a build or anything to save some money.
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2005/03/09 00:06:10 (permalink)
    I bought an aftermarket starter on ebay for $125 and it worked fine on my 500 HO, beats $269 for a new one at the dealer!!
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2005/04/03 20:05:42 (permalink)
    How about a belt for a 04 500 H.O. Atp?
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    Re: Make a list of common numbers we need 2005/04/24 21:06:11 (permalink)
    Quote:

    I found a Chicago Rawhide oil seal that works for the (output seal) on front diff.

    CR# 15801(SP700)



    This CR seal works better than the Federal Mogul 710308 I listed. It is wider and more like the OEM.
    Thanks for the info!
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