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2008/10/06 06:09:49 (permalink)

Adjusting valves on Brute Force?

Is it really even that important to adjust the valves in The 750 Brutes?
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    RE: Adjusting valves on Brute Force? 2008/10/06 06:18:43 (permalink)
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    RE: Adjusting valves on Brute Force? 2008/10/06 06:19:33 (permalink)
    YES

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    RE: Adjusting valves on Brute Force? 2008/10/06 17:09:52 (permalink)
    how often does this need to be done?
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    RE: Adjusting valves on Brute Force? 2008/10/06 18:46:40 (permalink)
    Valve clearance - inspect • once every year of use

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    RE: Adjusting valves on Brute Force? 2008/10/07 05:58:53 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Hess400

    how often does this need to be done?


    Every 300-400 hours of use.

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    RE: Adjusting valves on Brute Force? 2008/10/08 06:16:23 (permalink)
     i only have like 40 hours on my 08 750 and I sounds to me like the valves need adjusted because there is alittle bit of a clicking noise at idle when its warmed up. still runs good
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    RE: Adjusting valves on Brute Force? 2008/10/08 06:56:27 (permalink)
    The Kawasaki dealer recommends every 100 hours if I rememebr correctly. It should be in your manual.

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    RE: Adjusting valves on Brute Force? 2008/10/08 08:33:29 (permalink)
    yep this is something I really need to do... Got 164 hours and 1200 miles on mine and ahvent done it yet. Dont wait this long...

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    RE: Adjusting valves on Brute Force? 2008/10/08 08:41:05 (permalink)
    Manual says every year of use. When I posed this question to my dealer, he suggested every 400 hours. And it is bad to let them go for too long, as it may stretch your chains.

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    RE: Adjusting valves on Brute Force? 2008/10/08 09:36:14 (permalink)
    If anything at all check the intake valves...

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    RE: Adjusting valves on Brute Force? 2008/10/08 23:33:02 (permalink)
    I just checked mine.    08 750    46 hours 250 miles.     All the intake valves were out of spec,   to loose.  
    I havent ot it back together.   I wonder if it will run any different.

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    RE: Adjusting valves on Brute Force? 2008/10/10 07:37:10 (permalink)
    Is it possible to get both cylinders lined up at top dead center at the same time or do you have to do it one at a time?
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    RE: Adjusting valves on Brute Force? 2008/10/10 07:41:05 (permalink)
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    Is it possible to get both cylinders lined up at top dead center at the same time or do you have to do it one at a time?


    One at a time. And as a note, I usually go ahead and take the valve covers off, and the little plug, so I know when it's TDC without question.

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    RE: Adjusting valves on Brute Force? 2008/12/14 13:42:52 (permalink)
    which ones are exaust valves?
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    RE: Adjusting valves on Brute Force? 2008/12/14 16:59:48 (permalink)
    Which valves are what? (sarcasm??) Look at where your exhaust comes out of the cylinder head and where your intake goes in. When you go to do this it helps to take the battery tray loose and set it up for the rear cylinder, and the coolant line for the front, it will be easier to get your hands in there. And make sure your feeler gauge isnt hung on anything near the valve and is sitting nice and flat between the cam lobe and the valve set screw while youre doing this.
     
    When you find top dead center there is two lines on your cam gear, align them to be flush with the surface of the cylinder head. And there is an arrow stamped in the cam gear also will be pointing up at TDC. (thats if you have the valve cover taken off the cylinder that you can see this). At TDC all valves are closed so there shouldnt be any pressure on any of the rockers of the cylinder that is at TDC. Also take the plug off the flywheel and look inside with a flashlight, there is a stamp indicating FT and RT to mark front and rear top dead center.
     
    Set the gap and feel with your fingers that theres just aa little play between the the rockers and the cam and you're set.
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    RE: Adjusting valves on Brute Force? 2008/12/14 20:53:43 (permalink)
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    Which valves are what? (sarcasm??) Look at where your exhaust comes out of the cylinder head and where your intake goes in. When you go to do this it helps to take the battery tray loose and set it up for the rear cylinder, and the coolant line for the front, it will be easier to get your hands in there. And make sure your feeler gauge isnt hung on anything near the valve and is sitting nice and flat between the cam lobe and the valve set screw while youre doing this.

    When you find top dead center there is two lines on your cam gear, align them to be flush with the surface of the cylinder head. And there is an arrow stamped in the cam gear also will be pointing up at TDC. (thats if you have the valve cover taken off the cylinder that you can see this). At TDC all valves are closed so there shouldnt be any pressure on any of the rockers of the cylinder that is at TDC. Also take the plug off the flywheel and look inside with a flashlight, there is a stamp indicating FT and RT to mark front and rear top dead center.

    Set the gap and feel with your fingers that theres just aa little play between the the rockers and the cam and you're set.
    are you nuts?? that is no where near the way to do it on a brut .on a dohc street bike it is but not on a brute
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    RE: Adjusting valves on Brute Force? 2008/12/15 06:30:36 (permalink)
    ^explain?




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    RE: Adjusting valves on Brute Force? 2008/12/15 08:37:55 (permalink)
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    The Kawasaki dealer recommends every 100 hours if I rememebr correctly. It should be in your manual.


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    RE: Adjusting valves on Brute Force? 2008/12/16 10:03:35 (permalink)
    Bad, Devil
     
    Thats how the kawasaki dealer explained it to me... and it worked... whats your method?
     
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    RE: Adjusting valves on Brute Force? 2008/12/16 10:19:39 (permalink)
    man i really need to do this as i have 102hrs now, but it seems like a ton of work. Is there a write up anywhere. What parts do yuo need to get?(valve cover seals and whatever type gauge you use). Thanks guys.

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    RE: Adjusting valves on Brute Force? 2008/12/16 14:48:18 (permalink)
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    . And make sure your feeler gauge isnt hung on anything near the valve and is sitting nice and flat between the cam lobe and the valve set screw while youre doing this.


    Set the gap and feel with your fingers that theres just aa little play between the the rockers and the cam and you're set.
    are you nuts?? that is no where near the way to do it on a brut .on a dohc street bike it is but not on a brute

     
    i think he meant the valve stem and the rocker (valve set screw)

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    RE: Adjusting valves on Brute Force? 2008/12/16 23:13:21 (permalink)
    One thing to remember folks....as the valves wear, they get tighter...not looser. The reason is the valves wear into the seats causing the gap between the end of the valve stem and the rocker arm to get smaller (tighter)...not looser. So when you set your valves you want to set them towards the larger (looser) end of the tolerance, not the smaller end or you'll just be right back in there doing it again pretty soon.... (been there, done that).
    Also, clutches tend the make a bit of clacking, rattling noise on occasion...don't mistake this for valve noise.
     

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    RE: Adjusting valves on Brute Force? 2008/12/16 23:44:23 (permalink)
    ok is there a write up or how to on this somewhere? I looked in the shop manual and it shows you how to do it but the pictures arent great. I would like a little more info and veiws before i go ito it. Thanks guys.

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    RE: Adjusting valves on Brute Force? 2008/12/17 00:52:30 (permalink)
    I watched some videos on youtube of a guying doing a polaris, but would like to see some one do a brute. Also will i need new valve cover seals? And anything else? Thanks guys. A writeup with pics would be a good christmas gift.lol

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    RE: Adjusting valves on Brute Force? 2008/12/17 01:53:20 (permalink)
    Mike Ames is exactly Right. It just sounds like alot of work.... My 06 i didnt use any new valve cover gaskets and there still fine... i just clean the mating surfaces with some emory cloth... and maybe a touch of gasket maker on the each corner. its real easy once u take some of the stuff off... Airbox, Battery tray... and some other stuff.. cant remember off the top of my head. if U can get ahold of a service manual all u really need to see in for pictures is the alignment marks for TDC... taking the valve cover off is ALOT easir.. than just the check cover. best thing about this website... all u need to do is ask... and u get tons of help and response

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    RE: Adjusting valves on Brute Force? 2008/12/18 01:14:13 (permalink)
    how come you never hear of valves having to be adjusted on a car for???
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    RE: Adjusting valves on Brute Force? 2008/12/18 20:49:10 (permalink)
    Cause most of them use roller cams now and dont need to be adjusted like the older vehicles. You must be a youngin.[;)]


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