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2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!!

Here In last september I bought a 2012 foreman 4x4 es and fell in love as soon as i got i ordered a 2 inch lift snorkel kit and slapped some 28 inch silverbacks on it. Well not to long ago around april all of the crew was out riding, I got into a hole with a clay bottom and I could here the bike start bogging down well I tried to ease it out the best I could and all of a sudden I heard a loud snap and It just lost its power so I rolled back into the hole well after putting it back in 1st gear again I tried to ease it out and it just started making a horrible grinding noise so I got winched out and limped it back got it home took everything oey and took it back in for warranty, they said they would cover it and take it in and see if they could find the problem, bout 3 weeks later they call me and tell me whats going on so I go over there and see whats going on, they show me the stock gears what they were calling the "cluster gears" 1st-5th gear, the actual gears that engage when you shift the way they explained it to me but when they showed me the "bad" gears they looked in great shape no chips cracks or missing peices so they sent me home with the newly installed gears saying everything was fixed, well that was on a friday afternoon so that sunday I took it out riding witht he stock tires wheels everything **** the snorkel wasnt even on so went riding was goind down the road shifted it in 5th gear and it made the same snapping noise and started it again so being pretty irratated with it happening like april the 30th i believe was the day and a big trip we all had planned to busco may 4-6 I called them and told them what happened, at busco it was still doing it so I had to pretty much ride around with everybody else on the back of someones got back and took it straight over there now today that being about 3 weeks ago and me calling and going over there seeing what was going on they finally tell me the 2 inch lift kit i had on there is the problem they said that it was putting the driveshaft where it goes into the differential in a bind and causing damage inside of there but what ****ed me off is they tear it down and then call me with the news and tell me warranties not going to cover it and Ive got to pay out of pocket Just venting and ranting but wondering If anybody else with these new foremans has had these or any other problems, I mean ever since Ive gotten this thing Ive had nothing but problems and has got me furious because how can just a 2 inch lift cause this much problems ? i mean almost everyones got a 2 inch bracket lift on there 4 wheeler of some sort and for me to have 7000 tied up in a peice of **** has just got me furious!!!! anyone else havin these kinds of problems ?  

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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/05 21:23:49 (permalink)
    Thats bs dude. You just have a crappy dealer.

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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/06 00:40:24 (permalink)
    it happening the second time may be tech error when putting in the gears, they can be tricky if you dont take your time. I didnt see the "bad"gears so im just throwing ideas out there, pending on how you ride sometimes when shifting under higher than normal rpm the "dogs" on some of the gears can get rounded and wont engage each very well, and usually slip out of each other but i you said that you were able to still ride it home after it "snapped" so this may not be the case just trying to shed some light

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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/06 01:03:56 (permalink)
    420s have the same problems. I understand why they wont cover it. Without the lift it wouldnt have happened. If you bought the bike off the floor with lift already installed it would have been covered by warranty if it was a decent dealer

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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/06 01:29:38 (permalink)
    How does lift blow tranny gears? Just curious? Haven't really heard that, don't see how angle increase could make stress on 1st-5th inside the tranny, unless increased stress on out put shat is causing it?

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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/06 03:51:48 (permalink)
    Rearead his post. Its pulling the driveshaft out of rear diff. That is caused from a lift. Quite a few 420 owners have encountered this. It ultimately strips the splines on pinion gear and drive shaft.

    To the op once it gets repaired either lengthen the drive shaft or remove the lift

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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/06 05:02:13 (permalink)
    havent heard this one before.. but have heard of the 2012 rattle.. at idle, warmed up they sound like a box of rocks.. folks have had valves done, chain tensioners, tappet adjustments, along with a barrage of parts change outs ,  & heard a dozen reasons why it does it, including blaming the throttle body not being dialed in good enough..i would hope honda sorts it all out.. appears this is yet another problem with them.. all the reasons why i never buy anthing on its first coupla yrs.  production ..
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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/06 08:41:56 (permalink)
    i have a  buddy with one and has 28 mst's. he gives his bike h##l and has not had any problems at all.

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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/06 10:28:27 (permalink)
    Thats what I was thinking stomper, I thought the gears would be rounded or something chipped off but they looked absolutley fine when I looked at them, Ive tried to be as easy as I could on this bike as far as not riding it rough and dogging it out but its been nothing but a headache even when im taking it easy riding it. but after this second time I took it over there, there saying its in the rearend exactly what intodeep was describing. there now saying that was the original problem. I duno Im just pretty frustrated with it
     

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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/06 10:31:43 (permalink)
    and asd59878 as soon as I get it back Im gone to make sure it is definatley fixed this time since Ive got to pay out of pocket and Im selling it to do just that lol buy a honda 300 54% gear reduction and 29.5s and call it a day man!

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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/06 10:35:46 (permalink)
    intodeep did you have that problem with yours? did you lengthen the driveshaft?

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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/06 10:45:52 (permalink)
    If I remember right he had to lengthen his driveshaft cause he stretched his swingarm. But idk about if he did before he did the stretch. I just remeber a post where he stretched his swingarm
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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/06 11:25:57 (permalink)
    Mine got lengthened due to a stretch. But before it was stretched i built a lil lift and wasnt happy how much the rear drive shaft slid out of diff to compensate so i shortend the brakets front and rear

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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/06 12:26:06 (permalink)
    oh okay gotcha thanks for the info man, but Im honestly thinking about taking everything off and selling it with all the accesories in the box and just who ever buys it have them do what they want lol im tired of messing with it

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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/06 13:11:15 (permalink)
    Why not just remove the lift? Sounds simplier to me

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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/06 13:19:29 (permalink)
    ^^Agreed. That way youll be able to enjoy it a certain amount.
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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/06 13:49:51 (permalink)
    well I would just take the lift off but would I be able to put bigger tires on it or would that still probally put it in a bind to the point where i would have the same problem?

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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/06 13:52:55 (permalink)
    It will fit 28s with no lift. If the problem is the drive shaft pulling out then removing the lift will solve the problem completely.

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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/06 13:55:11 (permalink)
    okay so I just need to take the lift off

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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/06 14:20:27 (permalink)
    Yeah

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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/06 15:38:14 (permalink)
    Shoot if anything just take lift off and if you were to do say 29.5 or 30 on most Hondas it ain't the front that's the problem clearing it is the rear and to fix that you just lengthen the driveshaft and swing arm a couple inches and you are ready to go play hard as it was stock

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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/06 15:58:20 (permalink)
    My buddies did the same thing. We were on a sandbar at the river and he was just riding and heard something snap. The driveshaft and yoke splines stripped out. He took it to the shop and the dealer said something about Honda having a recall on the driveshaft because it was too short or something like that. The driveahaft was slipping out of the yoke and eventually stripped out the splines. They fixed it for free. But it was doing the same thing you said yours was doing. Would yours spin the front tires?? And he didn't have a lift. He had his shocks turned all the way up with 29.5 laws.

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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/06 16:03:31 (permalink)
    My buddies did the same thing. We were on a sandbar at the river and he was just riding and heard something snap. The driveshaft and yoke splines stripped out. He took it to the shop and the dealer said something about Honda having a recall on the driveshaft because it was too short or something like that. The driveahaft was slipping out of the yoke and eventually stripped out the splines. They fixed it for free. But it was doing the same thing you said yours was doing. Would yours spin the front tires?? And he didn't have a lift. He had his shocks turned all the way up with 29.5 laws.

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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/08 00:12:57 (permalink)
    I've had the same trouble out of both my bikes. The drive shafts are to short. I removed both lifts and swaped the wheels and tires around. My 500 turns the 28's fine and only rubs alittle when I have a passager on board. I had to change out the rear end on both of them. H&W Honda of Palestine covered the 2012.

    I wasn't anywhere at all easy on the 420. I dropped it in to 4 tire drive and hulled out the rear end and had a blast on the way back to camp at mudd creek. I back through a lot of holes that night like a crawfish.

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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/08 01:24:39 (permalink)
    Ohh I see what he was saying now. Confusion cleared

    And lmao selling it and getting a 300 and 54% sounds like a better deal honestly, mine have done awesome I ride more than fix.



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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/08 12:11:38 (permalink)
    big red 300 yea the front tires would still pull and asd lol thats what im gonnna do get a ole 300 just gotta get this one dealt with lol

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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/08 12:13:10 (permalink)
    big red 300 did they put a longer driveshaft on ur buddies foreman ?

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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/08 12:15:32 (permalink)
    You probably just stripped the driveshaft and yoke out. I'd replace them and take your lift off or turn your shock down if you have your shocks turned up. That will probably help a bunch.

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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/08 15:59:12 (permalink)
    My buddy has a 2012 with black mambas a snorkel and a lift and he gives it heckkk and doesnt have any trouble out of it at all

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    Re:2012 Honda Foreman Problems.....Again!! 2012/06/08 16:16:49 (permalink)
    I bought my 2012 4-5 months ago so maybe I got a
    "newer batch" i have a 2.5" lift and 31" wide laws
    And never had a problem. Except for the left axle.
    Oh and my rear shock is all the way up.

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