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2009/04/27 19:17:23 (permalink)

09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700

which bike would be tougher and longer lasting and cause the least problems. i will be running 29.5 laws or 30 backs on it with other mods like exhaust and lift etc.. i like to mud and ride deep water along an occasional trail riding here and there. i have test drove the new grizz but havent gotten a chance to testdrive a new MP yet but will soon. i love the 4wd and difflock setup on the grizz, how does the 4wd and diff lock setup on the MP compare to the grizzly?

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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/27 19:26:52 (permalink)
    A friend of mine has a mudpro, and its got a few gremlins in it but has more torque to turn bigger tires, but wid that said i had 32s on my 700 grizz wid only axle trouble, go ride them and see which u like in the 700 class they are by far the best!!

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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/27 19:27:25 (permalink)

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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/27 19:29:44 (permalink)
    All things being equal (IE: Both bikes performing as advertised and both meeting your expectations) you can't beat the warranty that a MP offers.

    IMO, of course. I'm sure all of the 700 class performs somewhat equal with each having their special points. There's no stock GC like an AC, etc. I just perfer the stance and performance that AC offers.

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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/27 19:36:04 (permalink)
    Just to state facts not tryin to step on toes the GRIZZ 700 has 11.5 inches of GC on 25'' tires and the MUDPRO has 13 on 28'' tires some thing to think about mine wid the 32s had over 18'' wid a 2'' lift, 

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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/27 19:42:27 (permalink)
    farmerboy700

    Just to state facts not tryin to step on toes the GRIZZ 700 has 11.5 inches of GC on 25'' tires and the MUDPRO has 13 on 28'' tires some thing to think about mine wid the 32s had over 18'' wid a 2'' lift,

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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/27 19:43:40 (permalink)
    They got 2 sittin at Gnanns fix it shop in springfield ga and both GOT 13!! maby the tires are slack!!

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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/27 19:45:31 (permalink)
    the grizz has 11.5, the MP has 14, not 13
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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/27 19:47:55 (permalink)
    Dang slack tires!!! 14 it is then 

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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/27 19:51:59 (permalink)
    this is like comparing apples to oranges lets see 700 grizz will need to add 4.0 gears clutch kit. tires wheels, remap of the ecu, and snorks once all of that is done no warntee,

    mudpro stock tires with some **** nice wheels gears clutch remap ecu and snorks taller springs. allllllllllll covered under a factory warnteeeeeeee!!. also add a 2inch hl lift to the griz and 32s the mud pro all you would have to do to get back to your warnt is put the stockers back no cause it should be close to clearing 32s with out a lift... but **** who am i i dont even have a **** cat yet
    post edited by shaeleblanc - 2009/04/27 19:53:11

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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/27 19:55:50 (permalink)
    nice thing about the cat is the gears. I traded a guy with a grizz my 31x11s for his 31x9.5s and he wanted to trade back b/c he wasn't happy with the way it turned them
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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/27 19:57:04 (permalink)
    3 inches more an the mud pro. both are good bikes which every one you choose youll love it.

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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/27 19:58:12 (permalink)
    why does it blank out my post like that some times

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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/27 20:00:19 (permalink)
    hey farmer ( LMAO!!!), j/k, i meant to tell you that your bike sounded real good!
     
    stupid slack tires. lol!

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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/27 20:10:59 (permalink)
    My MP is fun but if u mod yours like i have done to mine you will be walkin a fine line on the warranty. They call it a mud pro but the only thing u want have to mod is the snorkle system. Check the clamps, i had a loose one on the belt side. I added 31" laws, B&J lift with axle spacers,1 1/2 wheel spacers, Black magic pipe and removed the SLD. Now..... its a Mud Pro! with a questionable warranty. I had the ecm replaced under warranty. Hope this helps. The grizz is a good bike also.

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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/27 20:14:32 (permalink)
    IF nothin else it sounds good thats for sure, i hate braggin but i love the sound!! trust me the video does no justic!!

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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/27 21:01:29 (permalink)
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    Just to state facts not tryin to step on toes the GRIZZ 700 has 11.5 inches of GC on 25'' tires and the MUDPRO has 13 on 28'' tires some thing to think about mine wid the 32s had over 18'' wid a 2'' lift,

     
    My 650H1 has 17'/18" of GC with 29.5s and a 2" lift... :-)  My 05 500m has 28/12 MSTs on it with no lift and has 15" under it..? go figure huh..lol
     
     
    One thing the AC has over the Grizz is the lowend torque and low gearing to spin BIG tire EASY.
     
    But go ride the MP now that you rode the Grizz I think you will know which one you like better after that.


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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/27 21:01:58 (permalink)
    with my msts air up to 7 psi i have 15 inches of gc on my mudpro.   no complaints on my end here.  if you trail ride mostly then i would go with the grizzly w/ ps.  plush ride, comfortable seat, power steering it is the way to go if you trail ride mostly.  if you mud then get the mudpro.  it trail manners is very comparable minus the power steering.  either way you get a great atv.  if you modd the grizzly to meet the mudpro then you would have more in the grizzly than buying a mp stock with a warranty like it is.

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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/27 22:52:40 (permalink)
    how does the 4wd locker on the MP compare to the grizz? i really like the 4wd diff lock setup on the grizz but i dont really know anything about the AC. which one do yall think is better?

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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/27 23:00:36 (permalink)
    The diff lock is about the same on the AC's as the grizz but I think for a mudder bike that you would be happier with the MP due to the fact that it has alot more GC and more low end to pull those big tires.  I had a Grizz 700 before I bought the T-Cat and all I did was break axles I think I broke 3 stokers and 2 gorillas all in about 300 to 400 miles, But other than the axles I never had a problem with it.

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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/28 00:03:11 (permalink)
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    how does the 4wd locker on the MP compare to the grizz? i really like the 4wd diff lock setup on the grizz but i dont really know anything about the AC. which one do yall think is better?


    The 4wd locker is nearly identical. Back on the older CATS, and still some new ones you had to flip a lever to engage the diff lock and just like the Brute Force variable lever the cable would stretch over time, and become out of alignment. This meant that the locker would not always engage, so you will be three wheeling even though the locker is supposed to be engaged. On the new Thunder Cats the locker is electronically engaged just like the Yamaha system, which in my opinion is a lot better.

    Either way, flip lever cable engagement or electronic engagement when the AC locker is engaged it is just as reliable as the Yamaha, and Suzuki system. For manual lockers those are the best three on the market. Then for auto lockers Polaris is the best on the market.

    Here is my take on the AC vs Grizzly 700. For trail riding hands down I would pick the Grizzly 700 over any Arctic Cat. However for mud riding it is a lot closer, both are excellent machines, with a slight advantage to the CAT with its lower gearing, and slightly higher GC. I know when I run my Grizz 700 with 28" Laws or 28" Mudzillas, I have a difficult time turning those tires in super thick mud like this...









    We are about to do a Mud Monster Build up for the Magazine, and I had to decided which machine to go with. We have settled on a Arctic Cat whether its a TC 950 or AC Mud Pro 700, I ll know for sure after June, but we are leaning towards the TC 950.

    Again the Grizzly can be an excellent mudder, the stock air box, and CVT intakes are at the highest point of the machine, and it has very good ground clearance, but it just lacks the power/gearing to really turn 28 plus tires in the super thick stuff.

    As much as I love the Grizzly 700, and I have been a Yamaha man since 2002, I personally would choose an Arctic Cat over the Grizz, WHEN it comes to hard core mud riding. Now, trail ridng I would choose the Grizzly over the Arctic Cat. Just depends what you are looking for, they both have their strengths and weakenesses. 

    However, if the locker is your concern don't worry both are equally as good.

     

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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/28 09:44:24 (permalink)
    I dont belive the grizzly has 11.5 at the lowest point...my buddy has a 08 grizzly with 27 inch 589s and he has like 10 inches and with my 28 msts i have 14 and a bit. He can not follow me in the mud/snow or water (both snorkeled) mine just out powers him to no end...but he has the top end and is faster bike.

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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/28 09:47:39 (permalink)
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    how does the 4wd locker on the MP compare to the grizz? i really like the 4wd diff lock setup on the grizz but i dont really know anything about the AC. which one do yall think is better?


    The 4wd locker is nearly identical. Back on the older CATS, and still some new ones you had to flip a lever to engage the diff lock and just like the Brute Force variable lever the cable would stretch over time, and become out of alignment. This meant that the locker would not always engage, so you will be three wheeling even though the locker is supposed to be engaged. On the new Thunder Cats the locker is electronically engaged just like the Yamaha system, which in my opinion is a lot better.

    Either way, flip lever cable engagement or electronic engagement when the AC locker is engaged it is just as reliable as the Yamaha, and Suzuki system. For manual lockers those are the best three on the market. Then for auto lockers Polaris is the best on the market.

    Here is my take on the AC vs Grizzly 700. For trail riding hands down I would pick the Grizzly 700 over any Arctic Cat. However for mud riding it is a lot closer, both are excellent machines, with a slight advantage to the CAT with its lower gearing, and slightly higher GC. I know when I run my Grizz 700 with 28" Laws or 28" Mudzillas, I have a difficult time turning those tires in super thick mud like this...









    We are about to do a Mud Monster Build up for the Magazine, and I had to decided which machine to go with. We have settled on a Arctic Cat whether its a TC 950 or AC Mud Pro 700, I ll know for sure after June, but we are leaning towards the TC 950.

    Again the Grizzly can be an excellent mudder, the stock air box, and CVT intakes are at the highest point of the machine, and it has very good ground clearance, but it just lacks the power/gearing to really turn 28 plus tires in the super thick stuff.

    As much as I love the Grizzly 700, and I have been a Yamaha man since 2002, I personally would choose an Arctic Cat over the Grizz, WHEN it comes to hard core mud riding. Now, trail ridng I would choose the Grizzly over the Arctic Cat. Just depends what you are looking for, they both have their strengths and weakenesses. 

    However, if the locker is your concern don't worry both are equally as good.



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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/28 13:49:56 (permalink)

    no machine is perfect.  the mud pro is pretty sweet, for a stock qaud.   his wont keep up with my grizz anywhere.  MAWHAHA    

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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/28 14:07:35 (permalink)
    lol to funny  :-)

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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/28 15:33:40 (permalink)
    Just get u a 850 and be done wid it!!! lol i had to do it!! SRRY GWC!! lololololo

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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/28 15:44:05 (permalink)
    Boy i will say one thing those 850s sound real good real good.

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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/28 15:47:11 (permalink)
    i havent had it long enought to see how its gonna compare on the tuf****ess but its sounds good and has tons more power it dont even struggle at all wid the 32s!! BUT only time will tell

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    Rincon Boggin
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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/28 16:16:31 (permalink)
    ok i only have 1 more question for you guys. which bike do yall think would be more dependable, longest lasting, and have the least amount of problems with? grizz or MP?

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    Re:09 AC MudPro vs. 09 Grizzly 700 2009/04/28 16:31:31 (permalink)
    don't think there is a real answer to that. a better question to ask is what bike is the easiest to work on for maintenance & repair.

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